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American living in Germany. I have the public health insurance (7.5% of my salary goes to pay this insurance. But, only on salary up to ~60k€)Couple experiences in US ER and also major surgery in US. Thousands and thousands of dollars on top of insurance costs.In Germany- got a really bad case of mono. Thought I was getting better (spoiler alert: was not), ended up jaundiced and had to spend a week in the hospital (private room). Tons of blood tests, IVs, and meals. Showed my insurance card. Never paid an additional cent.Caught my arm on a piece of broken glass (thanks, Berlin), ER trip and 4 stitches. Showed my insurance card. Never paid an additional cent.Wife hit her head while at work (was working at a bar at the time and came up under the counter too fast). We spent the whole day at the hospital cause they were afraid she might have a concussion. IV fluids, CT scan, bed for 8 hours. Showed her insurance card. Never paid an additional cent.Doctor visits- never pay an additional cent.Prescriptions- normally 5€ per script.If my wife didn’t have a job and we had kids- they would all be covered under my insurance.The US system is a complete fucking joke.

Let’s make a deal Mitch! You go right ahead and cut my Social Security and Medicare - so I can skip those pesky doctor visits and meds that improve the quality of life - and in turn you will live on the same amount of money/health coverage that I do. Oh heck, let’s not limit the fun. If cutting these programs seems such a great plan, let House and Senate participate in this Grand and Noble Experiment!Have you forgotten that Social Security comes straight out of worker’s paychecks? It was quick thinking on the part of those who created the program. Some people can save money and live on their income, they do not have that discipline, so they did the discipline part for us. Now, what does it say about a government that is willing to take what is not theirs, to fill a hole created by that government. For whatever reason, poor management, or big corporation buyouts which constituted a big chunk of the 8+ Trillion less than was n 10 years ago. It sure as hell this deficit is in no way the fault of those who contributed every payday.There was a time in our history when Americans felt protected and lucky to have a government that would never lie, cheat or steal from them. They felt secure, safe and most voted regularly. In the late 70’s, early 80’s cracks began to form in the relationship between the government and it’s people. Little lies seeped out under closed doors. Then a flood, and then a tidal wave. Can anything ever be done to turn this tide.?

Yes! This is kinda funny: as a child in Russia I was diagnosed with a couple of chronic and potentially very serious conditions that no Western physician ever confirmed. As a result of my mother’s persistence in finding something wrong with my health I have undergone innumerable doctor visits, multiple X-rays, EEG, ECG, two polyp surgeries, gastroscopy, duodenoscopy, some kind of liver imaging and even a test for HIV by age of 10. My health chart was about the size of Encyclopedia Britannica. As a result of all this healthcare odyssey I was diagnosed with chronic tonisllitis, chronic sinusitis, chronic gastritis with decreased acid production and even a mitral valve prolapse (a malfunction of the most active valve of the heart). Tellingly, a couple of years after that mitral valve diagnosis I won a running competition among kids my age. Weird, right? So some years after accumulating all this pile of diagnoses we moved to Israel, where upon turning 18 I was supposed to start my military service. My mother, very unhappy about this fact, wanted me to capitalize on this heap of health problems and dodge the draft, so she sent me on a round of doctor visits and tests once again and … NADA! Nothing at all! I was healthy as a horse! The only problem that prevented me from getting into the top health category in the draft office was my weight — I just 2 pounds above the lowest limit permissible in the military. But otherwise, I was fine (and thanks to the marvelous cook in our unit gained all the missing pounds soon enough)! Later, when I decided to get an open water diving license I needed to get approved by a doctor and undergo heart tests and breathing tests once again. And yes, my heart and respiratory system were found to work perfectly, I was approved for diving and managed to see some cool sunken ships and poisonous fishes :) When I asked one of my docs, out of curiosity, what that stomach trouble with decreased acid production might be, he answered that Western medicine does nor know such a disease. So, all of those scary diagnoses filling up my mammoth-sized health chart were found bogus. I dive, hike, donate blood, and live my life as a healthy human.