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The government pays half the rent.Who pays the other half?The government already has a program. It’s often called “Section 8”. And it usually pays more than half.Though, it is often hard to get homeless people into Section 8 housing, because the government has a very long wait list for the program… And the rules are not really made to help people who are homeless.

Since I live next door to a section 8 house and I know someone who lost her section 8 benefits, I’ll offer my two cents. First of all, government benefits do not pay the “full rent.” It may pay about 70%–90% of it, but not 100%. Next and the main reason why landlords don’t accept them is because, you really don’t know what kind of tenant you’re getting. Most of the tenants don’t give a damn about your property. They have the mindset, “it’s not mine and the landlord can afford to get things fixed if I let my children destroy the place.” A family of four will move into an empty house and the next month there’s eight or nine living there. All claiming to be related to the woman who obtained the section 8 voucher. My former neighbor stiffed the landlord for thousands of dollar in unpaid rent. She kept making complaints about the house needing repairs. But when the landlord sent repairmen to the house, my neighbor would not let them inside. Many times she claim she wasn’t home all the while she just didn’t answer the door. The last time she did that trick, the repairmen and landlord came with the police. Again she didn’t answer the door but all the time she was in the house. She was evicted about two months later and the sheriff deputies had to literally tear down the door. Of course, she was inside. All the time she was making up these lies just to avoid paying her share of the rent. The landlord told me she had not paid rent in three years. Apparently it’s not easy to evict a section 8 tenant. HUD don’t care about the tenants destroying your place. They always protect the tenant’s rights. My girlfriend whom I have known for years was receiving section 8 and kept telling me and others she was on a waiting list. All the while she and her four kids were living with her mother. Well, it turned out she was getting section 8 and was subleasing the house to three tenants. One of them sued her and that’s how HUD discovered her fraud. She ended up doing 36 months in the “big house.” Meanwhile, her kids lived with her mother. Whiling serving time her mother died and the kids ended up in foster care. She even had the audacity to ask me if she could stay at my house after she was released. Of course I said no and that was the end of our friendship. Now she lives in a homeless shelter.

I dated a woman for a number of years. She lived in Section 8 Housing (Taino Towers in NYC/Harlem) and still does. While with her, I learned a number of ways Section 8 and Food Stamps (SNAP) and WIC and welfare are defrauded from her, her family and her friends.Just judging from Taino Towers, at LEAST 30% of residents are involved in some type of fraud and feel entitled to it. The program at Taino provides rent and utilities for one monthly fee, which is based on your income. You HAVE to have at least a minimum income to cover the minim rent of $217/month (at last I knew in 2015).Fraud Methods:Work off the books. Report weekly income of $50 for “babysitting”. This covers the minimum rent and entitles you to the EIC when you file your false tax return.Typically, the woman would have the lease. Move a boyfriend in. He is NOT on the lease and his income not included in the subsidy calculation. (My ex used to call it “Musical apartments”). A guy finds a girl with a job and benefits and moves in with her. When he gets tired of her, he starts cheating with someone else with an Section 8 lease in the building. He either gets caught, or dumps her and moves in with the next woman. All the while sponging off the woman and Section 8.Rent out your couch or a spare bedroom for cash to cover your rent and don’t declare it.Use fake w-2’s and 1040’s to keep your rent lowMove people in that are not on the lease and so not included in the subsidy calculation (Such as a boyfriend/girlfriend.Put people on the lease (A grandchild) who does not live there to get an extra bedroom to rent out.Management: Take bribes ($5k-10k depending on the size of the apartment) to move people up the list. If you have 50 open apartments, print out the letters to people on the waiting list to let them know they have an apartment available. Print the envelopes and postage meter the letters and shred/dispose of 30 or so. This get’s no response and everyone moves up the list. Keep this up until the person who bribed you is next in line. Takes 6–12 month.Go to a local bodega that accepts SNAP/Food Stamps and does not have a POS system, just a regular register. They will sell you anything, including alcohol, cigarettes and blunt wrappers on your card.Sell your SNAP dollars for $0.50 on the dollar. I can’t even count the number of times I was on line at Pathmark and people were using multiple SNAP cards to pay for groceries.If this is indicative of all the 650,706 subsidized apartments in NYC, then there are millions being defrauded and people stuck in shelters waiting while lifetime, lifestyle criminals have big apartments that should not.EDIT: This is my personal ANECDOTAL experience of EXAMPLE within the circle my ex moved in. It included people in Taino and other complexes and “Walking Section 8”.