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Should Ron Paul be president? Would he be an improvement from Obama?

[EDIT #3: I've deleted more comments, because I'm not allowing rude, often vulgar remarks and claims to just pile up here. It's the equivalent of throwing litter out a car window, and I'm simply now blocking those people who cannot respond in civil, intelligent fashion. If you are driven into a frenzy or rage over my disliking and criticizing a candidate you are devoutly loyal to, or you are driven into equal frenzy over notions that your ideology is the only right one and is under some kind of broad attack by "the left" or "progressivism" or whatever other term you want to apply, I think you're not arguing in a healthy or productive manner, and there are now too many people engaging in that kind of discourse toward other users simply over our criticism of Ron Paul or the perception -- often glaringly false -- that we're members of whatever ideology the angry loyalists assign to the perceived persecutors. I know a lot of Ron Paul supporters, and am aware that a lot of them are well-meaning, intelligent, and merely disagree over this and that aspect of the debate about him and his positions. This is not about those people, it's about those responding constantly and with increasing rage and personal insults and wild accusations at anyone critical of Ron Paul or perceived to be critical of their personal ideology. If that's how you're behaving, and you are posting that kind of extreme commentary, I will simply not allow it to remain and will likewise block you. You won't like this, and I won't enjoy doing it, so please do us both a favor and refrain from posting it here in the future. Thanks.][Edits: New links added at the bottom of the answer][Edit #2: Despite the continued posting of disingenuous answers make excuses for Ron Paul's racist positions (or, sometimes, just outright agreeing with them, such as his opposition to "forced integration" which some folks shockingly just openly admit agreeing with) and claiming -- falsely -- that I or others misrepresented etc Ron Paul's positions, more of the mainstream press has now started to dig into the newsletters and confirmed that yes, Ron Paul publicly took credit for authoring those newsletters and defended them with overt racist remarks ON THE RECORD IN INTERVIEWS. So these answers that merely attempt to cover up that fact by telling readers that Ron Paul denies authorship and we'll just never know etc etc are demonstrably -- and, I think, knowingly -- presenting false information.Here's another outlet that recently ran a story about the truth of this matter...http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/12/27/395391/fact-check-ron-paul-personally-defended-racist-newsletters/Some that include videos of Ron Paul promoting the newsletters, and note the fact that to date Ron Paul has STILL refused to explain why he now denies authorship etc but previously took credit and defended the newsletters...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/26/ron-paul-newsletters-swiftness-of-black-men_n_1169990.htmlhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/23/ron-paul-newsletter-interview_n_1167645.htmlSome more, including his signature on the mailer warning of a race war...http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/22/ron-pauls-story-changes-on-racial-comments/http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/23/us-usa-campaign-paul-plots-idUSTRE7BM03320111223He won't respond to the media about his current denials contradicting his past embrace of the racist newsletters, because he can't comment on it because he is lying about it, plain and simple. And at this point, there's no excuse for his defenders to continue being disingenuous about this issue and/or trying to mislead other people about it.]No, Ron Paul should absolutely NOT be President. And I urge you to read the following in order to see why he shouldn't be president.Too few people know that Ron Paul has in the last several years "remade" himself into this supposedly moderate civil libertarian. Too few people are aware of his very real, and very bad, links to all manner of white nationalists and very fringe, irrational, and frankly paranoid groups and conspiracy theories (I use the term to mean the common-use understanding of the phrase, because it absolutely applies here) about secret international cabals plotting to take over the USA, be it a Mexican invasion to seize the southern U.S. or U.N. troops commanded by "international/European bankers" (very transparent and common anti-Semitic code for "Jews") who will seize our guns and create a one-world religion and government, a big race war that will seek to enslave white citizens, and other such dangerous, far-right extremist ramblings.Here is a sampling of information about Ron Paul that I like to share, to make the factual and undeniable case that he is indeed a racist who embraces many seriously delusional, dangerous, and hateful views.There are some of the more fanatical and extreme supporters who will refuse to even look at or believe the documentation about Ron Paul's views, his past, his votes, his links to extremist white nationalist groups and conspiracy theories, etc, and who will just not even address any of it but instead outright dismiss it as "lies/slander/whatever" or claim it's a conspiracy against him (that apparently includes a clone of him who went back in time to give interviews taking credit for writing those inflamatory newsletters and even went into detail to defend them and explain the "research" he did to "prove" his remarks about black people etc). But hopefully the vast majority of folks, who are rational and intelligent supporters of progressive policies and support civil liberties, will realize they simply weren't aware of these facts because these things rarely get covered in the media and Ron Paul's campaign and most vocal supporters have just been very good at shouting it down and denying it.Anyway, here is the text from a document I keep on hand to send to friends and family and others when they ask for information/evidence/whatever about Ron Paul's true nature...Ron Paul now claims he isn't the author of racist comments published under his byline in his Texas newsletter in the mid-1990's.The problem with these denials is, back in the 1990's, he wasn't denying authorship of those articles, he was admitting to it and in fact DEFENDING the remarks. Let's take a look at some news excerpts from press reports at that time, including quotes from the articles under Ron Paul's byline and quotes from Ron Paul himself when asked about those articles...(1.) Dallas Morning News, 5-22-96:Dr. Ron Paul, a Republican congressional candidate from Texas, wrote in his political newsletter in 1992 that 95 percent of the black men in Washington, D.C., are "semi-criminal or entirely criminal."He also wrote that black teenagers can be "unbelievably fleet of foot." [...]Dr. Paul, who is running in Texas' 14th Congressional District, defended his writings in an interview Tuesday. He said they were being taken out of context."It's typical political demagoguery," he said. "If people are interested in my character ... come and talk to my neighbors." [...]According to a Dallas Morning News review of documents circulating among Texas Democrats, Dr. Paul wrote in a 1992 issue of the Ron Paul Political Report: "If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet of foot they can be."Dr. Paul, who served in Congress in the late 1970s and early 1980s, said Tuesday that he has produced the newsletter since 1985 and distributes it to an estimated 7,000 to 8,000 subscribers. A phone call to the newsletter's toll-free number was answered by his campaign staff. [...]Dr. Paul denied suggestions that he was a racist and said he was not evoking stereotypes when he wrote the columns. He said they should be read and quoted in their entirety to avoid misrepresentation. [...]"If someone challenges your character and takes the interpretation of the NAACP as proof of a man's character, what kind of a world do you live in?" Dr. Paul asked.In the interview, he did not deny he made the statement about the swiftness of black men."If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them," Dr. Paul said.He also said the comment about black men in the nation's capital was made while writing about a 1992 study produced by the National Center on Incarceration and Alternatives, a criminal justice think tank based in Virginia.Citing statistics from the study, Dr. Paul then concluded in his column: "Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.""These aren't my figures," Dr. Paul said Tuesday [when interviewed about the column's comments]. "That is the assumption you can gather from" the report.(2.) Houston Chronicle, 5-23-96:Paul, a Republican obstetrician from Surfside, said Wednesday he opposes racism and that his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time." [...]Paul also wrote that although "we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."A campaign spokesman for Paul said statements about the fear of black males mirror pronouncements by black leaders such as the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who has decried the spread of urban crime.Paul continues to write the newsletter for an undisclosed number of subscribers, the spokesman said.Writing in the same 1992 edition, Paul expressed the popular idea that government should lower the age at which accused juvenile criminals can be prosecuted as adults.He added, "We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."Paul also asserted that "complex embezzling" is conducted exclusively by non-blacks."What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn't that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?" he wrote.(3.) Austin American-Statesman, 5-23-96:"Dr. Paul is being quoted out of context," [Paul spokesman Michael] Sullivan said. "It's like picking up War and Peace and reading the fourth paragraph on Page 481 and thinking you can understand what's going on." [...]Also in 1992, Paul wrote, "Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions."Sullivan said Paul does not consider people who disagree with him to be sensible. And most blacks, Sullivan said, do not share Paul's views. The issue is political philosophy, not race, Sullivan said."Polls show that only about 5 percent of people with dark-colored skin support the free market, a laissez faire economy, an end to welfare and to affirmative action," Sullivan said. [...]"You have to understand what he is writing. Democrats in Texas are trying to stir things up by using half-quotes to impugn his character," Sullivan said. "His writings are intellectual. He assumes people will do their own research, get their own statistics, think for themselves and make informed judgments."(4.) Washington Post, 5-26-96:Paul, an obstetrician from Surfside, Tex., denied he is a racist and charged Austin lawyer Charles "Lefty" Morris, his Democratic opponent, with taking his 1992 writings out of context."Instead of talking about the issues, our opponent has chosen to lie and try to deceive the people of the 14th District," said Paul spokesman Michael Sullivan, who added that the excerpts were written during the Los Angeles riots when "Jesse Jackson was making the same comments.""Ron knows our society and our nation has done some horrible things to the black community, which has pushed a majority of young black men in some areas, in Washington, D.C., for example, into criminal activities," Sullivan said.(5.) Dallas Morning News, 7-25-96:Dr. Paul, who faces Mr. Morris in the 14th District race for the U.S. House, dismissed the criticism as "name-calling and race-baiting." [...]In a written statement, Dr. Paul said, "Repeated attempts by my liberal opponent to reduce the campaign to name-calling and race-baiting is just more of the same old garbage we expect from his camp and will not deter me from continuing to address the real issues."Dr. Paul said his opinions about Ms. Jordan, who died earlier this year, "represented our clear philosophical difference."(6.) Roll Call, 7-29-96:In a statement, Paul said he had "labored to conduct a campaign based upon the issues that are vital to our nation" and charged Morris with "repeated attempts...to reduce the campaign to name calling and race-baiting."He called Morris's request that he release all back issues of the newsletter "not only impractical, but...equivalent to asking him to provide documents for every lawsuit he has been involved in during his lengthy legal career."Of his statements about Jordan, Paul said that "such opinions represented our clear philosophical difference. The causes she so strongly advocated were for more government, more and more regulations, and more and more taxes. My cause has been almost exactly the opposite, and I believe her positions to have been fundamentally wrong: I've fought for less and less intrusive government, fewer regulations, and lower taxes."(7.) San Antonio Express-News, 9-30-96:Paul's spokesman Michael Quinn Sullivan said the candidate does not want to "rehash" old issues. [...]Paul has said he opposes racism and accused Morris of reducing the campaign to "name-calling and race-baiting."(8.) Houston Chronicle, 10-11-96:Paul, who earlier this week said he still wrote the newsletter for subscribers, was unavailable for comment Thursday. But his spokesman, Michael Quinn Sullivan, accused Morris of "gutter-level politics."Sullivan said it was "silly" to try to make a political issue of something written in an "abstract" sense. [...]NOW, how about a list of some other lousy things Ron Paul believes and has done?1. Ron Paul explains his opposition to “forced integration” and to affirmative action are the reasons he gives for his vote AGAINST reauthorizing the Civil Rights Act of 1964…http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul188.html2. Ron Paul voted AGAINST renewing the Voting Rights Act …http://civilliberty.about.com/od/profiles/ig/2008-Republican-Candidates/Ron-Paul.htm?r=943. Ron Paul also voted against reopening the unsolved murder investigations into race-related killings during the Civil Rights Movement…http://killfile.newsvine.com/_news/2007/06/22/796085-ron-paul-votes-against-re-opening-civil-rights-era-hate-crime-cases4. Some more of Ron Paul’s comments from his newsletter regarding black men:* “If you’ve ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be,”* "Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action,"* “We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers,"* "Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal,"http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:TRwF3PNJObcJ:www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html+%22Newsletter+excerpts+offer+ammunition+to+Paul%E2%80%99s+opponent%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us[One of the primary sources for Paul's "information" above about black crime was Jared Taylor, who writes for and runs American Renaissance magazine, a white nationalist magazine that also hosts a biannual conference of white nationalist and outright whitesupremacist groups and neo-Nazi organizations. Paul got much of his data directly from the June and August1992 issues of the magazine.]5. Ron Paul supports lowering the age at which children can be charged and prosecuted as adults, saying (see the above link), “[B]lack males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."6. Ron Paul’s positions on minorities and civil rights legislation MIGHT be why Ron Paul gets the endorsement of “White Civil Rights – European American Unity and Rights Organization: The Website for Europeans and Americans Wherever They May Live”, thewhite supremacist group run by David Duke:http://www.whitecivilrights.com/ron-paul-gets-double-the-crowd-in-iowa_864.html… and more support on David Duke’s site in support of Ron Paul’s candidacy…http://www.davidduke.com/general/confirmed-rep-ron-paul-running-for-president-2008_1676.html[Not that a person should strictly be judged based on who might peripherally endorse them, but takenalongside his comments and votes on racial issues and immigration, I think the endorsements from white supremacists does in fact inform and educate regarding the implications of his positions.]7. Ron Paul voted in favor of banning gay adoptions in D.C., in favor of continuing ban on gays in the military, in favor of “protecting” the Pledge of Allegiance in schools by forbidding federal courts from hearing cases on the issue, in favor of ending affirmative action in college admissions…http://senate.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Civil_Rights.htm8. Ron Paul voted against allowing any federal funding of human embryonic stem cell research, against federal funding for any abortions and contraception, against restrictions on employer interference in union organizing, against minimum wage increase, and voted to abolish federal Medicare…http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm9. Ron Paul voted to amend the Constitution to revoke citizenship to infants of undocumented immigrants (even if the children are born on U.S. soil), voted against all federal affirmative action programs, voted against any citizenship path for undocumentedimmigrants inside the U.S. …http://civilliberty.about.com/od/profiles/ig/2008-Republican-Candidates/Ron-Paul.htm?r=9410. Ron Paul voted to keep “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, was one of the sponsors of the school prayer amendment, and supported keeping the Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn…http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d105:HJ00078:@@@L&summ2=m&http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/votes/?votenum=257&chamber=H&congress=109111. Ron Paul is on the national board of Christian Voice, which calls for mandatory AIDS testing and advocates banning homosexuality and pornography. He regularly argues that there should be no real separation of church and state. Quote from Ron Paul's article "War on Religion", Dec. 2003, at Lew Rockwell site online:"The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life."http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.htmlhttp://www.christianvoiceonline.com/12. Ron Paul signed a fundraising letter for a Republican Senate candidate attacking George McGovern for supporting gay rights, women's rights, and minority rights. Ron Paul signed a letter that ran as a full-page ad in the New York Times and called for the overthrow of the Sandinista government in Nicaragua, and Paul asked Reagan to use military force to stop the "spread" of Communism in Central America. Ron Paul also argued on the floor of Congress against any and all negotiations with the Soviet Union for the reduction of nuclear weapons. And sponsored legislation requiring the U.S. to withdraw from the ABM Treaty:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.1665:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d106:h.r.3769:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.j.res566:13. Ron Paul opposes the International Criminal Court, which prosecutes war-crimes, and sponsored bills to declare the ICC invalid and unrecognized by the U.S. Ron Paul :http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.1154:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HZ0480:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.4169:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.con.res.23:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.res.416:14. Ron Paul opposed the Panama Canal Treaty that returned control of the territory back over to Panama, and he pushed for the U.S. to retain "sovereignty" over the Canal:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.r.2522:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d094:h.res1410:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d106:h.con.res.231:15. Ron Paul sent a recent fundraising letter (link to pdf below) that included claims that a "world elite" is forming a "North American Union", that the UN is planning to "confiscate our firearms" and to "impose a global tax", and the "elites" also plan on taking "control [of] the world's oceans" and use the U.S. military "to police the world", code-words that directly appeal to the right-wing white supremacist militia movement (the letter also includes claims of a government plan "to give amnesty to illegal immigrantsand erase our national borders", and that "our American way of life is under attack"):http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/10/02/ronpaul.jpg16. Ron Paul has been regularly linked to the "patriot movement", including a 2004 banquet held in Ron Paul's honor thrown by The Patriot Network, and Ron Paul's frequent writings for the neo-Confederate site Dixie Daily News (for which he also appeared at their "FreedomFest" in Las Vegas this past summer). Ron Paul spoke at the Robert A. Taft Club in Oct. 2007 – this group is a white nationalist organization, headed by Marcus Epstein, an advocate for white supremacist groups and frequent attendee at the white supremacist biannual conference American Renaissance.http://www.patriotnetwork.info/ (At the Patriot Network, about one-fifth of the way down the page, includes photo of Ron Paul at event)http://www.southerncaucus.org/ (Dixie Daily News' multiple links about Ron Paul, including middle of page link to Ron Paul at FreedomFest event)http://roberttaft.org/paul.htm (video of Ron Paul's speech to Robert A. Taft club)http://www.amren.com/17. Ron Paul voted for the so-called "DeLay rule" that changed House ethics rules to allow Tom DeLay to remain in office after he was indicted (Ron Paul received $6,000 from DeLay's ARMPAC).18. Ron Paul has long been obsessed with a particular theory about the Federal Reserve and gold. His early links to Gary North (son-in-law of R.J. Rushdoony, founder of Christian Reconstructionism), including North serving on Ron Paul's staff, led to Paul attending a seminar by North at the LA Hyatt in 1985, and the seminar was filled with far-right conspiracy theories (and featuring such luminaries as Constitution Party founder Howard Phillips (the Constitution Party is a white nationalist party). Ron Paul slowly came to embrace the notion that the Federal Reserve is secretly a false entity with no real authority, that federal money should only exist as a currency for paying our taxes, and that the U.S. should return to the gold standard and abolish the Federal Reserve.http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d098:h.r.4226:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d097:h.r.391:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.r.2658:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.r.6297:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.r.7874:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d097:h.r.6054:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.3732:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.r.7874:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.r.6297:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d098:h.r.876:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d098:h.r.875:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d106:h.r.1148:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.5356:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.2778:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.r.3931:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.2779:19. Ron Paul explains his views on the conspiracy involving the Federal Reserve in his book "The Case for Gold", which he doesn't mention much during his campaign appearances but which is full of the most bizarre aspects of the theory (but has removed or used code-words for a lot of the anti-Semitism and notions of Jewish conspirators at the heart of the Federal Reserve):http://www.mises.org/store/Case-for-Gold-The-P386C0.aspx?AFID=120. Ron Paul discussed the New World Order and other secret society global conspiracies in an interview with "Conspiracy Planet", which included back-and-forth discussions about the "banking elites" that is code for "Jews” in the discussion:http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=90&contentid=1659Ron Paul has, for roughly 30 years or more, had strong ties to key extremely right-wing beliefs and the groups – often white nationalists – who espouse these theories and ideas. He is strongly tied to certain far-right religious conservative groups and has consistently championed social conservative ideologies on gay marriage, abortion, and women's rights.He has championed U.S. military intervention in Central America, has been staunchly in favor of military action to confront the supposed threat of Communism, and opposed efforts to reduce nuclear weapons.His economic and general governing philosophy is rooted in specific bizarre and extremist conspiracy theories that Paul has adhered to for decades, and he has recently openly discussed his fear of secret U.N. plans to take over the U.S., merge it with Mexico and Canada, impose a global tax, and confiscate citizens' guns, as part of a New World Order plot for global domination by "certain elites" at the U.N. and in "international banking".Ron Paul has a history of opposing desegregation in the South, voting rights legislation for minorities, and his newsletter frequently featured openly racist remarks and claims about African-Americans.In short, Ron Paul pretends to be a just an anti-war civil libertarian voice of reason, when in fact he’s a far-right extremist tied to fringe racist theories and is only “anti-war” sometimes when he doesn’t like a particular military action, when acting anti-war will gain him followers and donations. Too many civil libertarians have been fooled by his dishonest misrepresentation of his true nature and views, and it’s important to expose these things to the public and to prevent Ron Paul from developing a following among people who simply aren’t aware of his true history and nature.If you are a Ron Paul supporter who is now unhappy and doesn't know who to support anymore, I will note for the record that there is actually a candidate who really is everything Ron Paul pretends to be -- Gary Johnson. I'm merely noting that if that's the kind of candidate you wanted to support, a real-life version exists who can stand up to any intensive "background check" like the one above, and who will remain precisely what you thought he was. Johnson is a case of "what you see is what you get" as a civil libertarian and "real" fiscal small-government conservative. Johnson ran for the GOP nomination, but has now dropped out of that race and is going to run for (and probably easily walk away with) the Libertarian nomination instead. So just hypothetically, there's a candidate for all the Ron Paul supporters, for libertarians and Libertarians, for moderate conservatives who feel the GOP has left them behind, and for a lot of liberal/progressives who are unhappy with Obama but refuse to support the GOP and don't feel that the Green Party or others are adequate representatives of your range of views and focus of concerns etc.That's NOT an endorsement, by the way, It's just to say that I hope all of the folks who previously supported Ron Paul will stop and will instead look elsewhere, and if they insist on needing a candidate very close to the public persona Ron Paul tries to project, then Johnson is pretty much exactly what they want. So in that way, then, it's another part of the answer to "should Ron Paul be president" because besides all of the other information explaining why Paul shouldn't be president, another reason is that there exists a far better and honest example of what Paul claims to be, and thus the reasons one might give for supporting/voting for Ron Paul would instead make far more sense as reasons to support this other alternative instead, if that's what you want to support.ADDITIONAL INFO: I want to also link over to some extra information that's very relevant and worth looking at if you're seriously interested in finding out about Ron Paul and his links to these sorts of far-right, racist, paranoid beliefs/people/groups/etc.Mark Hughes's answer to Aside from newsletters, what evidence exists that Ron Paul is or is not racist?Nathan Ketsdever's answer to Aside from newsletters, what evidence exists that Ron Paul is or is not racist?

Is Ron Paul racist?

Yes, and the only way to deny it is to simply ignore a huge amount of evidence straight from Ron Paul's own mouth, voting record, connections to people and groups, etc.It doesn't matter how much you don't want him to be a racist or wish he wasn't, or how much you think his political ideology can't possibly be racist due to a plethora of abstract concepts about libertarianism, collectivism, state's rights, etc. The simple facts relate to whether or not the man has said and done racist things, whether he's overtly demonstrated that he holds racist views, regardless of whether HE thinks he's racist or whether some other person said Ron Paul's remarks and views don't matter in determining if he's really racist or not.I'll just repost the huge, glaring evidence I already posted over on the question Should Ron Paul be president? Would he be an improvement from Obama? since it's entirely relevant here and debunks a lot of the "no Ron Paul isn't racist" claims. Anyone who bothers to actually look at the evidence of quotes and behavior and connections and votes etc will see pretty easily that yes, Ron Paul and his campaign & supporters have been ignoring or brushing under the rug a large amount of facts about Ron Paul's past and his continued present connections and ideas.Here is my post and evidence from that other question:______________________________________Too few people know that Ron Paul has in the last several years "remade" himself into this supposedly moderate civil libertarian. Too few people are aware of his very real, and very bad, links to all manner of white nationalists and very fringe, irrational, and frankly paranoid groups and conspiracy theories (I use the term to mean the common-use understanding of the phrase, because it absolutely applies here) about secret international cabals plotting to take over the USA, be it a Mexican invasion to seize the southern U.S. or U.N. troops commanded by "international/European bankers" (very transparent and common anti-Semitic code for "Jews") who will seize our guns and create a one-world religion and government, a big race war that will seek to enslave white citizens, and other such dangerous, far-right extremist ramblings.Here is a sampling of information about Ron Paul that I like to share, to make the factual and undeniable case that he is indeed a racist who embraces many seriously delusional, dangerous, and hateful views.There are some of the more fanatical and extreme supporters who will refuse to even look at or believe the documentation about Ron Paul's views, his past, his votes, his links to extremist white nationalist groups and conspiracy theories, etc, and who will just not even address any of it but instead outright dismiss it as "lies/slander/whatever" or claim it's a conspiracy against him (that apparently includes a clone of him who went back in time to give interviews taking credit for writing those inflamatory newsletters and even went into detail to defend them and explain the "research" he did to "prove" his remarks about black people etc). But hopefully the vast majority of folks, who are rational and intelligent supporters of progressive policies and support civil liberties, will realize they simply weren't aware of these facts because these things rarely get covered in the media and Ron Paul's campaign and most vocal supporters have just been very good at shouting it down and denying it.Anyway, here is the text from a document I keep on hand to send to friends and family and others when they ask for information/evidence/whatever about Ron Paul's true nature...Ron Paul now claims he isn't the author of racist comments published under his byline in his Texas newsletter in the mid-1990's.The problem with these denials is, back in the 1990's, he wasn't denying authorship of those articles, he was admitting to it and in fact DEFENDING the remarks. Let's take a look at some news excerpts from press reports at that time, including quotes from the articles under Ron Paul's byline and quotes from Ron Paul himself when asked about those articles...(1.) Dallas Morning News, 5-22-96:Dr. Ron Paul, a Republican congressional candidate from Texas, wrote in his political newsletter in 1992 that 95 percent of the black men in Washington, D.C., are "semi-criminal or entirely criminal."He also wrote that black teenagers can be "unbelievably fleet of foot." [...]Dr. Paul, who is running in Texas' 14th Congressional District, defended his writings in an interview Tuesday. He said they were being taken out of context."It's typical political demagoguery," he said. "If people are interested in my character ... come and talk to my neighbors." [...]According to a Dallas Morning News review of documents circulating among Texas Democrats, Dr. Paul wrote in a 1992 issue of the Ron Paul Political Report: "If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet of foot they can be."Dr. Paul, who served in Congress in the late 1970s and early 1980s, said Tuesday that he has produced the newsletter since 1985 and distributes it to an estimated 7,000 to 8,000 subscribers. A phone call to the newsletter's toll-free number was answered by his campaign staff. [...]Dr. Paul denied suggestions that he was a racist and said he was not evoking stereotypes when he wrote the columns. He said they should be read and quoted in their entirety to avoid misrepresentation. [...]"If someone challenges your character and takes the interpretation of the NAACP as proof of a man's character, what kind of a world do you live in?" Dr. Paul asked.In the interview, he did not deny he made the statement about the swiftness of black men."If you try to catch someone that has stolen a purse from you, there is no chance to catch them," Dr. Paul said.He also said the comment about black men in the nation's capital was made while writing about a 1992 study produced by the National Center on Incarceration and Alternatives, a criminal justice think tank based in Virginia.Citing statistics from the study, Dr. Paul then concluded in his column: "Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.""These aren't my figures," Dr. Paul said Tuesday [when interviewed about the column's comments]. "That is the assumption you can gather from" the report.(2.) Houston Chronicle, 5-23-96:Paul, a Republican obstetrician from Surfside, said Wednesday he opposes racism and that his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time." [...]Paul also wrote that although "we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."A campaign spokesman for Paul said statements about the fear of black males mirror pronouncements by black leaders such as the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who has decried the spread of urban crime.Paul continues to write the newsletter for an undisclosed number of subscribers, the spokesman said.Writing in the same 1992 edition, Paul expressed the popular idea that government should lower the age at which accused juvenile criminals can be prosecuted as adults.He added, "We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."Paul also asserted that "complex embezzling" is conducted exclusively by non-blacks."What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn't that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?" he wrote.(3.) Austin American-Statesman, 5-23-96:"Dr. Paul is being quoted out of context," [Paul spokesman Michael] Sullivan said. "It's like picking up War and Peace and reading the fourth paragraph on Page 481 and thinking you can understand what's going on." [...]Also in 1992, Paul wrote, "Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions."Sullivan said Paul does not consider people who disagree with him to be sensible. And most blacks, Sullivan said, do not share Paul's views. The issue is political philosophy, not race, Sullivan said."Polls show that only about 5 percent of people with dark-colored skin support the free market, a laissez faire economy, an end to welfare and to affirmative action," Sullivan said. [...]"You have to understand what he is writing. Democrats in Texas are trying to stir things up by using half-quotes to impugn his character," Sullivan said. "His writings are intellectual. He assumes people will do their own research, get their own statistics, think for themselves and make informed judgments."(4.) Washington Post, 5-26-96:Paul, an obstetrician from Surfside, Tex., denied he is a racist and charged Austin lawyer Charles "Lefty" Morris, his Democratic opponent, with taking his 1992 writings out of context."Instead of talking about the issues, our opponent has chosen to lie and try to deceive the people of the 14th District," said Paul spokesman Michael Sullivan, who added that the excerpts were written during the Los Angeles riots when "Jesse Jackson was making the same comments.""Ron knows our society and our nation has done some horrible things to the black community, which has pushed a majority of young black men in some areas, in Washington, D.C., for example, into criminal activities," Sullivan said.(5.) Dallas Morning News, 7-25-96:Dr. Paul, who faces Mr. Morris in the 14th District race for the U.S. House, dismissed the criticism as "name-calling and race-baiting." [...]In a written statement, Dr. Paul said, "Repeated attempts by my liberal opponent to reduce the campaign to name-calling and race-baiting is just more of the same old garbage we expect from his camp and will not deter me from continuing to address the real issues."Dr. Paul said his opinions about Ms. Jordan, who died earlier this year, "represented our clear philosophical difference."(6.) Roll Call, 7-29-96:In a statement, Paul said he had "labored to conduct a campaign based upon the issues that are vital to our nation" and charged Morris with "repeated attempts...to reduce the campaign to name calling and race-baiting."He called Morris's request that he release all back issues of the newsletter "not only impractical, but...equivalent to asking him to provide documents for every lawsuit he has been involved in during his lengthy legal career."Of his statements about Jordan, Paul said that "such opinions represented our clear philosophical difference. The causes she so strongly advocated were for more government, more and more regulations, and more and more taxes. My cause has been almost exactly the opposite, and I believe her positions to have been fundamentally wrong: I've fought for less and less intrusive government, fewer regulations, and lower taxes."(7.) San Antonio Express-News, 9-30-96:Paul's spokesman Michael Quinn Sullivan said the candidate does not want to "rehash" old issues. [...]Paul has said he opposes racism and accused Morris of reducing the campaign to "name-calling and race-baiting."(8.) Houston Chronicle, 10-11-96:Paul, who earlier this week said he still wrote the newsletter for subscribers, was unavailable for comment Thursday. But his spokesman, Michael Quinn Sullivan, accused Morris of "gutter-level politics."Sullivan said it was "silly" to try to make a political issue of something written in an "abstract" sense. [...]NOW, how about a list of some other lousy things Ron Paul believes and has done?1. Ron Paul explains his opposition to “forced integration” and to affirmative action are the reasons he gives for his vote AGAINST reauthorizing the Civil Rights Act of 1964…http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/...2. Ron Paul voted AGAINST renewing the Voting Rights Act …http://civilliberty.about.com/od...3. Ron Paul also voted against reopening the unsolved murder investigations into race-related killings during the Civil Rights Movement…http://killfile.newsvine.com/_ne...4. Some more of Ron Paul’s comments from his newsletter regarding black men:* “If you’ve ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be,”* "Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action,"* “We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers,"* "Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal,"http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:TRwF3PNJObcJ:www.chron.com/content/chronicle/...[One of the primary sources for Paul's "information" above about black crime was Jared Taylor, who writes for and runs American Renaissance magazine, a white nationalist magazine that also hosts a biannual conference of white nationalist and outright whitesupremacist groups and neo-Nazi organizations. Paul got much of his data directly from the June and August1992 issues of the magazine.]5. Ron Paul supports lowering the age at which children can be charged and prosecuted as adults, saying (see the above link), “[B]lack males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."6. Ron Paul’s positions on minorities and civil rights legislation MIGHT be why Ron Paul gets the endorsement of “White Civil Rights – European American Unity and Rights Organization: The Website for Europeans and Americans Wherever They May Live”, thewhite supremacist group run by David Duke:http://www.whitecivilrights.com/...… and more support on David Duke’s site in support of Ron Paul’s candidacy…http://www.davidduke.com/general...[Not that a person should strictly be judged based on who might peripherally endorse them, but takenalongside his comments and votes on racial issues and immigration, I think the endorsements from white supremacists does in fact inform and educate regarding the implications of his positions.]7. Ron Paul voted in favor of banning gay adoptions in D.C., in favor of continuing ban on gays in the military, in favor of “protecting” the Pledge of Allegiance in schools by forbidding federal courts from hearing cases on the issue, in favor of ending affirmative action in college admissions…http://senate.ontheissues.org/20...8. Ron Paul voted against allowing any federal funding of human embryonic stem cell research, against federal funding for any abortions and contraception, against restrictions on employer interference in union organizing, against minimum wage increase, and voted to abolish federal Medicare…http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ro...9. Ron Paul voted to amend the Constitution to revoke citizenship to infants of undocumented immigrants (even if the children are born on U.S. soil), voted against all federal affirmative action programs, voted against any citizenship path for undocumentedimmigrants inside the U.S. …http://civilliberty.about.com/od...10. Ron Paul voted to keep “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, was one of the sponsors of the school prayer amendment, and supported keeping the Ten Commandments on the courthouse lawn…http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://www.congress.org/congress...11. Ron Paul is on the national board of Christian Voice, which calls for mandatory AIDS testing and advocates banning homosexuality and pornography. He regularly argues that there should be no real separation of church and state. Quote from Ron Paul's article "War on Religion", Dec. 2003, at Lew Rockwell site online:"The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life."http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/...http://www.christianvoiceonline....12. Ron Paul signed a fundraising letter for a Republican Senate candidate attacking George McGovern for supporting gay rights, women's rights, and minority rights. Ron Paul signed a letter that ran as a full-page ad in the New York Times and called for the overthrow of the Sandinista government in Nicaragua, and Paul asked Reagan to use military force to stop the "spread" of Communism in Central America. Ron Paul also argued on the floor of Congress against any and all negotiations with the Soviet Union for the reduction of nuclear weapons. And sponsored legislation requiring the U.S. to withdraw from the ABM Treaty:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...13. Ron Paul opposes the International Criminal Court, which prosecutes war-crimes, and sponsored bills to declare the ICC invalid and unrecognized by the U.S. Ron Paul :http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...14. Ron Paul opposed the Panama Canal Treaty that returned control of the territory back over to Panama, and he pushed for the U.S. to retain "sovereignty" over the Canal:http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...15. Ron Paul sent a recent fundraising letter (link to pdf below) that included claims that a "world elite" is forming a "North American Union", that the UN is planning to "confiscate our firearms" and to "impose a global tax", and the "elites" also plan on taking "control [of] the world's oceans" and use the U.S. military "to police the world", code-words that directly appeal to the right-wing white supremacist militia movement (the letter also includes claims of a government plan "to give amnesty to illegal immigrantsand erase our national borders", and that "our American way of life is under attack"):http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/pho...16. Ron Paul has been regularly linked to the "patriot movement", including a 2004 banquet held in Ron Paul's honor thrown by The Patriot Network, and Ron Paul's frequent writings for the neo-Confederate site Dixie Daily News (for which he also appeared at their "FreedomFest" in Las Vegas this past summer). Ron Paul spoke at the Robert A. Taft Club in Oct. 2007 – this group is a white nationalist organization, headed by Marcus Epstein, an advocate for white supremacist groups and frequent attendee at the white supremacist biannual conference American Renaissance.http://www.patriotnetwork.info/ (At the Patriot Network, about one-fifth of the way down the page, includes photo of Ron Paul at event)http://www.southerncaucus.org/ (Dixie Daily News' multiple links about Ron Paul, including middle of page link to Ron Paul at FreedomFest event)http://roberttaft.org/paul.htm (video of Ron Paul's speech to Robert A. Taft club)http://www.amren.com/17. Ron Paul voted for the so-called "DeLay rule" that changed House ethics rules to allow Tom DeLay to remain in office after he was indicted (Ron Paul received $6,000 from DeLay's ARMPAC).18. Ron Paul has long been obsessed with a particular theory about the Federal Reserve and gold. His early links to Gary North (son-in-law of R.J. Rushdoony, founder of Christian Reconstructionism), including North serving on Ron Paul's staff, led to Paul attending a seminar by North at the LA Hyatt in 1985, and the seminar was filled with far-right conspiracy theories (and featuring such luminaries as Constitution Party founder Howard Phillips (the Constitution Party is a white nationalist party). Ron Paul slowly came to embrace the notion that the Federal Reserve is secretly a false entity with no real authority, that federal money should only exist as a currency for paying our taxes, and that the U.S. should return to the gold standard and abolish the Federal Reserve.http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bd...19. Ron Paul explains his views on the conspiracy involving the Federal Reserve in his book "The Case for Gold", which he doesn't mention much during his campaign appearances but which is full of the most bizarre aspects of the theory (but has removed or used code-words for a lot of the anti-Semitism and notions of Jewish conspirators at the heart of the Federal Reserve):http://www.mises.org/store/Case-...20. Ron Paul discussed the New World Order and other secret society global conspiracies in an interview with "Conspiracy Planet", which included back-and-forth discussions about the "banking elites" that is code for "Jews” in the discussion:http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/...Ron Paul has, for roughly 30 years or more, had strong ties to key extremely right-wing beliefs and the groups – often white nationalists – who espouse these theories and ideas. He is strongly tied to certain far-right religious conservative groups and has consistently championed social conservative ideologies on gay marriage, abortion, and women's rights.He has championed U.S. military intervention in Central America, has been staunchly in favor of military action to confront the supposed threat of Communism, and opposed efforts to reduce nuclear weapons.His economic and general governing philosophy is rooted in specific bizarre and extremist conspiracy theories that Paul has adhered to for decades, and he has recently openly discussed his fear of secret U.N. plans to take over the U.S., merge it with Mexico and Canada, impose a global tax, and confiscate citizens' guns, as part of a New World Order plot for global domination by "certain elites" at the U.N. and in "international banking".Ron Paul has a history of opposing desegregation in the South, voting rights legislation for minorities, and his newsletter frequently featured openly racist remarks and claims about African-Americans.In short, Ron Paul pretends to be a just an anti-war civil libertarian voice of reason, when in fact he’s a far-right extremist tied to fringe racist theories and is only “anti-war” sometimes when he doesn’t like a particular military action, when acting anti-war will gain him followers and donations. Too many civil libertarians have been fooled by his dishonest misrepresentation of his true nature and views, and it’s important to expose these things to the public and to prevent Ron Paul from developing a following among people who simply aren’t aware of his true history and nature.If you are a Ron Paul supporter who is now unhappy and doesn't know who to support anymore, I will note for the record that there is actually a candidate who really is everything Ron Paul pretends to be -- Gary Johnson. I'm merely noting that if that's the kind of candidate you wanted to support, a real-life version exists who can stand up to any intensive "background check" like the one above, and who will remain precisely what you thought he was. Johnson is a case of "what you see is what you get" as a civil libertarian and "real" fiscal small-government conservative. Johnson ran for the GOP nomination, but has now dropped out of that race and is going to run for (and probably easily walk away with) the Libertarian nomination instead. So just hypothetically, there's a candidate for all the Ron Paul supporters, for libertarians and Libertarians, for moderate conservatives who feel the GOP has left them behind, and for a lot of liberal/progressives who are unhappy with Obama but refuse to support the GOP and don't feel that the Green Party or others are adequate representatives of your range of views and focus of concerns etc.That's NOT an endorsement, by the way, It's just to say that I hope all of the folks who previously supported Ron Paul will stop and will instead look elsewhere, and if they insist on needing a candidate very close to the public persona Ron Paul tries to project, then Johnson is pretty much exactly what they want. So in that way, then, it's another part of the answer to "should Ron Paul be president" because besides all of the other information explaining why Paul shouldn't be president, another reason is that there exists a far better and honest example of what Paul claims to be, and thus the reasons one might give for supporting/voting for Ron Paul would instead make far more sense as reasons to support this other alternative instead, if that's what you want to support.

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