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Have Georgia election officials given an explanation of what was happening in the infamous “suitcase video” that has Trump supporters claiming fraud?
Uh, yeah.This was explained minutes after it aired.(Conspiracy theories are like whack-a-mole…updated with more debunking and fact checking sources and quotes from a several other officials)Election officials disprove Trump’s viral suitcases of ballots ‘smoking gun’ videoMr Sterling was one of two Republican election officials in Georgia who denied the Trump campaign’s claims.Mr Sterling said the suitcases were moved across a room as “normal procedure”, and that there was nothing “odd” about the process, because poll workers were tasked with scanning the ballots once observers and vote counters had left the State Farm Arena.“If you look at the videotape, the work you see is the work you would expect, which is you take the sealed suitcase, you place the ballots on the scanner in manageable batches and you scan them,” Mr Sterling said.Frances Watson, the chief investigator for Georgia’s secretary of state, told Lead Stories that Republican and Trump campaign observers were not told to leave, and that the ballots scanned in the surveillance video had already been counted, in contrast to Mr Giuliani and Ms Pick’s assertions.“Nobody told them to stay. Nobody told them to leave. Nobody gave them any advice on what they should do,” she said. “And it was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as they were still working.”Ms Watson added that the ballots put through the scanners amounted to around 10,000, which was less than Joe Biden’s 12,670 vote margin over Mr Trump in the state.So, to be clear, we have a Republican Election official and the Republican Chief Investigator for the Republican Georgian Secretary of State testifying that Giuliani is full of shit and this is a case of propaganda super-spreaders distributing misinformation about something that they could have learned about if they attended the proper free training sessions or spoke with someone who knew what they’re talking about.Updated: Some of this was reported in a breaking news story on ABC:NEW: The election department sent the ballot counters at the State Farm Arena in Atlanta home at 10:30 p.m., Regina Waller, the Fulton County public affairs manager for elections, tells ABC News. https://t.co/HgCtcXEka3— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) November 4, 2020(the actual article is here, the link in the tweet goes to a feed: Pipe bursts in Atlanta arena causing 4-hour delay in processing ballots). There’s apparently mass confusion about this event, where Regina Waller, Public Affairs manager for the elections said they “sent home ballot counters at 10:30”. When this was announced the media pitched a fit because they wanted results. Waller disputes this narrative and says that she stated that some would be sent home while others would be leaving at 10:30.[1]When news media interviewed interviewed Rich Barron, the actual Fulton County elections director, he had caved to political and media pressure and kept all but but 5 to count new batches that had been opened by the cutters who were now leaving. The GOP observers misunderstood what occurred and thought they were done.There was a discrepancy about when workers were sent home on Election Night to stop processing absentee-by-mail ballots. The county said it would stop at 10:30 p.m.There was backlash internally and externally, but Barron said he sent almost all of his staff, who’d worked long hours and at a point were becoming “counter-productive.” So GOP observers thought all was done for the night.But five county workers stayed to do final processing of ballots until 1 a.m., under the supervision of a state observer.Fulton commissioner Liz Hausmann, a Republican, told Barron on Wednesday that “the Georgia GOP does not think we treated them fairly.”“We can’t even have the appearance that we don’t want them to (observe),” she said.Barron said he was aware of the mistake and that the GOP was certainly welcome to observe.More from leadstories:Frances Watson, chief investigator for the secretary of state, was quoted as saying the supposedly suspicious containers under the banquet room’s table were not suitcases, but rather standard containers for transporting ballots.“It was an empty bin and the ballots from it were actually out on the table when the media were still there, and then it was placed back into the box when the media were still there and placed next to the table,” Watson said.Sterling also told Lead Stories: “If you look at the video tape, the work you see is the work you would expect, which is you take the sealed suitcase looking things in, you place the ballots on the scanner in manageable batches and you scan them.”More on "being told to leave":Before certifying Fulton County’s voter tallies on Dec. 4, which was typically a mundane step in U.S. presidential elections before electors solidify the outcome of the popular vote through the Electoral College, the county’s election director, Rick Barron, said no one told anyone (including the observers and reporters) to leave the banquet room on the night of Nov. 3, according to Atlanta’s 11Alive. Rather, some poll workers had finished their shifts, and the staff was considering ceasing operations.“I told them not to do that,” Barron said, per the news outlet. “At about 11:15 [p.m.] they were fully scanning again, and once they were scanning, Carter Jones, the State Election Board monitor, he told me 11:42 or 11:52 [p.m.] that he arrived.”In other words, Barron alleged that a nonpartisan, state-designated monitor was present when poll workers were scanning ballots just before and after midnight. And after that, he said, an investigator with the secretary of state’s office also monitored the ballot scanning. Barron said, per Atlanta 11Alive:"What the video shows is that they have pulled out plastic bins from underneath the desks, those are bins that they keep under their desks near the scanners. They will cut those seals that are on those, open those up and pull the ballots out.They were still in the process of cleaning so they hadn’t sealed those ballot boxes up, so they were able to just start right back up, normal processing that occurred there."What we have are miscommunications from exhausted people who didn’t ask questions when they should have and now are just asking questions to sow doubt.Additionally, there was a story circulating right wing agitprop sites that there were 2 Republican poll watchers that signed affidavits claiming that a “black lady with blonde braids” told them to leave. This is not true. These two gave sworn affidavits that someone yelled that it was time to go to the “cutters”, so they did too, and no one gave them any instructions either way.[2]Their affidavits filed in support of President Donald Trump's lawsuit aimed at overturning Joe Biden's Georgia win both said a supervisor "yelled" to the election workers who were prepping ballots for scanning to "stop working" and return the next morning. The observers said they eventually followed those workers out, but they never claimed they were told to go, prevented from staying, or banned from returning. Their description of events closely match what the chief investigator for the secretary of state told Lead Stories.Further:Harrison said he and Branton " were then told to return to the Fulton County Board of Elections Warehouse," but the affidavit does not say who gave that instruction. There is no indication it was an election official involved in the vote count.Harrison and Branton both said the learned later from a news crew that the vote counting was continuing. Branton said she returned to the State Farm Arena and was told the counting had "just finished." She gave no indication that she was prevented from returning.The “briefcases” were actually secure storage for the ballots.This was normal operations.Moreover, scanning a ballot twice will not count it twice.Georgia has instituted a new voting system that uses ballot-marking devices. This system utilizes touchscreen voting machines that print your selections on a piece of paper along with a QR code that is then scanned and stored. So state officials say Georgia can audit those votes to ensure things are as they should be.“Because we now have that verifiable paper ballot, for the first time in 18 years, we're gonna have something to count. So instead of just pressing a button and getting the same answer,” Raffensperger said, “we'll be counting every single piece of paper, every single ballot and every single lawfully cast legal ballot.”[3]To put it simply:The machine scans the ballot and checks if it’s readableIf it doesn’t have a QR code it adds a unique QR code to the ballotIt then counts where the person marked the ballotIt stores the ballot count in a unique database table that is matched to the QR code ID.If you scan the ballot again, it can look up the QR code and verify that that ballot has been counted. If it’s already been counted once, it will not be counted again!This process enables:Machine recount with the existing database…if one ballot had an issue and didn’t get counted in a pile, it might get picked up a second time.Machine recount with a fresh database…to compare results for auditing purposesHand recount, to make sure the machines were calibrated properlyIf people took more interest in their communities and government than once a year trolling YouTube for anything mundane they can interpret as a conspiracy maybe we'd be a more unified country. Now we have Republicans accusing Republicans of sabotaging the election.From the comments we have stuff like this from people “just asking questions”:In other words, he thinks that if McConnell hadn’t disrespected the institutions of the Constitution, by creating the McConnell Doctrine and then hypocritically heel-faced turned years later that Scalia would have been a “Republican In Name Only” — a “Fake Conservative” despite being the most right wing justice the court has had in modern history.These are the types of people that make me concerned for the future, the ultra-tribalists that would turn their back on a person the second they waver in their devotion to the “R”. Repeatedly he claims that a “debunking” needs to be more than numerous officials (who are members of the party that lost the election) explaining the process and telling you that there’s nothing untowards happening. People like that don’t know how to answer questions, only ask them. Who repeatedly just ask questions, but never believe the answer.Politics for these people have become sports — worse than sports, it’s like Survivor, a game show where you’d kill your own just to win.I just finished watching a great video that has this quote:“I'm doubtful you ever really can debunk conspiracy theories. However many explanations that can be offered to demystify evidence that is presented so mysteriously and without context or even the most basic knowledge of surrounding issues, the art of the conspiracy theorist lies in always finding a next 'event' or 'phenomenon' the skeptic must further explain. Even if the skeptic manages to shoot through 100s of the conspiracy theorists 'pieces of evidence' the conspiracy theorist can still stand upon his pile of turd and still declare that the fact the skeptic is trying to obliterate his turd is further evidence of the conspiracy.”Even Fox News Reporters aren’t buying this: Fox News reporter denies Georgia election fraud claims made by Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity.But in the end, none of this mattered.They completed three recounts, a couple machine and one completely by hand and Biden ended up losing about 900 votes in the process, still winning the state by just less than 12,000 votes.Recount affirms Joe Biden won GeorgiaMore details: Did Georgia Poll Workers Hide 'Suitcases' of Ballots From Republican Observers?And: Video Doesn't Show 'Suitcases' of Illegal Ballots in GeorgiaMore: Opinion | Bogus ‘suitcase’ story rolls away from Fox News — The Washington PostHere’s some Rumor debunking from Trump’s Executive branch’s commission on election security: Rumor Control | CISAFootnotes[1] Questions persist over early dismissal of Atlanta poll workers, alleged secret ballot counting[2] Fact Check: GOP Observers Did NOT Swear In Affidavits They Were Told To Leave Fulton County, Georgia, Vote Count Center On Election Night | Lead Stories[3] Battleground: Ballot Box | Why Georgia's Audit Is Re-Counting 5 Million Ballots By Hand
What is wrong with the people who gathered at Nizamuddin Jamaat in New Delhi despite the lockdown?
Thank You Shubham Singh for A2A request.Well, after this Tablighi Jamaat fiasco, I felt an urge to dig deep into the tangle. I stepped on a very researched article, which I feel everyone must read about it.The Tablighi Jamaat tangle The Tablighi Jamaat’s mission, its very raison d’etre, is to spread the word of Islam and to make better Muslims of Muslims. But in recent days, it has gained notoriety for becoming the biggest ‘super spreader’ of the Covid 19 virus in not just South Asia where this group has its roots – its international headquarters are in Nizamuddin area of Delhi – but also in rest of Asia and perhaps other parts of the world as well.The outrage being expressed in India over the discovery of a Covid 19 cluster in the capital Delhi’s Nizamuddin area where the Tablighi Jamaat followers had gathered from around the world for their annual congregation is entirely justified. According to reports already 10 deaths and over 300 hospitalisations are being linked to the TJ congregation. Worse, because people had come from all across India, many of the returnees have become carriers of the virus to their states, cities and villages in all four corners of the country. While the blame-game over how the Tablighis brazenly violated government orders against any gathering bigger than 20 people, how foreigners could violate their tourist visas for preaching activity, the irresponsibility and negligence of Jamaat leaders in taking proper action etc. is unavoidable, what matters more is how to contain the damage, if at all this is still possible considering that attendees would have spread out to remote parts of India and perhaps passed on the virus. But the Covid 19 havoc wrought by the Tablighi Jamaat is not limited to India alone.“The outrage being expressed in India over the discovery of a Covid 19 cluster in the capital Delhi’s Nizamuddin area where the Tablighi Jamaat followers had gathered from around the world for their annual congregation is entirely justified”In Pakistan, the Tablighi Jamaat has been discovered as the biggest spreader after return of shia pilgrims from Iran. Despite warnings and entreaties to not hold the annual congregation in Raiwind, on the outskirts of Lahore, the ijtema was held in the second week of March. Similar congregations were held in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province where videos were circulated scoffing at the dangers posed by the virus, which was called a fraud. Within days, health authorities started discovering Covid 19 patients who could be traced back to the Tablighi congregations. Quite like in India, the Tablighis had spread the virus throughout Pakistan, and the magnitude of the problem has still remains unresolved. Only a couple of days back, around 500 Tablighis, including over 100 foreigners from South-East Asia, Central Asia, West Asia and Africa, were quarantined in Sukkur town of Sindh. There are also reports of at least one Chinese tablighi testing positive for Covid 19. But it is probably a little late in the day to contain the damage caused by the group’s insistence on holding its congregation. A report in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz claims that people who attended the congregation in Raiwind have already spread the virus from Kyrghztan to Gaza.Bangladesh, meanwhile, seems to have so far escaped any spread of the virus from the mammoth Tablighi congregation that is held annually in that country. Even so, fears are being expressed that Rohingyas returning from attending Tablighi Ijtema’s in Malaysia might have carried the virus with them. The Tablighi Jamaat gathering in Malaysia, which is believed to be responsible for infecting nearly two thirds of the Covid 19 positive cases in that country is also feared to have spread the virus in the entire region. While Indonesia managed to stop the Tablighi gathering, there has nevertheless been a sudden spike in cases in that country. The infections in other South East Asian countries are also being directly traced to the Malaysian Tablighi congregation.“While Indonesia managed to stop the Tablighi gathering, there has nevertheless been a sudden spike in cases in that country. The infections in other South East Asian countries are also being directly traced to the Malaysian Tablighi congregation.”Over the years, the Tablighi Jamaat has emerged as arguably the largest missionary outfit in the world with its footprint extending across the globe. It is an offshoot of the Deobandi school and its foundations were laid by a Deobandi cleric Mohammad Ilyas in the 1920s. It is believed to have come into existence as a reaction to the Arya Samaj and the Shuddhi movement nearly 100 years ago. Its primary aim was to keep the flock together through proselytization and preaching a puritanical version of Islam, initially among Muslim groups like the Meos that had acquired or adopted many Hindu customs. The work of Dawah (invitation) that the Jamaat carries out is voluntary. Volunteers devote whatever time they can to teach Islam to the faithful and invite the non-Muslims to enter the faith. There are roving bands of preachers – some do it for 4 days, others for 40 days in an year. The roving preachers travel within the country and across borders to spread Islam and mostly take care of their own travel, boarding and lodging arrangements. While there is no dearth of funds, which are mostly in the form of donations from wealthy patrons and ordinary people, and sale of books and other literature, the ijtema’s are extremely well organised. They are also very frugal, and no freebies are given to people who come from far and wide to attend and gain spiritual satisfaction.From those humble origins, the Jamaat now has presence in virtually every country of the world. While the organisational structure of the Jamaat is quite amorphous, its international headquarters are in Delhi. But over the years, political developments have led to power struggles and created new centres of power, for example in Pakistan and Bangladesh. Even so, all these centres share fraternal links and top clerics from all countries visit and address congregations organised in other countries. The annual congregation in Bangladesh is often touted as the single largest gathering of Muslims after the Haj. Even the annual ijtema in Raiwind is attended by over a million faithful.“While the organisational structure of the Jamaat is quite amorphous, its international headquarters are in Delhi. But over the years, political developments have led to power struggles and created new centres of power, for example in Pakistan and Bangladesh”With the steady growth of the Deobandi movement, in part because of state patronage (especially in Pakistan where the Deobandis were at the forefront of jihadism in pursuit of the state’s ideological and foreign policy agenda), the Tablighi Jamaat has seen an astronomical rise in its influence and its resources. Although the organisation eschews politics, and doesn’t participate in any political activity or lend open support to any political party/player, neither can it be ignored politically nor can it completely divorce itself from politics. In other words, even though organisationally the Jamaat stays away from politics, its followers often play an important role in politics. In Pakistan especially, there have been instances where the Jamaat’s Emir has hosted top retired military personnel to explore the possibility of going political. Although the Jamaat has continued to be apolitical, the fact that it commands a huge following means that no one really wants to rub it or its followers the wrong way. As a result, the Tablighis often do stuff that results in serious accidents, such as the recent burning of a train. The Jamaat often defies government orders banning large gatherings, which is exactly what has happened when against all advice it held its ijtema despite the fear that it could lead to the Covid 19 virus going viral.More than politics though, the Tablighi Jamaat has gained a rather unsavoury reputation worldwide on account of the links of its followers with notorious terror organisations. From Harkatul Ansar and Harkatul Mujahideen to Jaish-e-Mohammad, the entire menagerie of Taliban groups, to sectarian terror outfits like Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan, all have been associated with the Tablighi Jamaat. Designated international terrorists like Masood Azhar have even been reported to have travelled extensively to East Africa – Sudan, Somalia, Kenya – to proselytise and build their network. To colour the argument more, for example, former ISI chief Javed Nasir, who was the mastermind of the 1993 Mumbai serial blasts, is a staunch Tablighi Jamaat follower. Nasir has himself admitted in a court affidavit of defying UN sanctions to supply weapons in Bosnia and other jihadist hotspots. People associated with the Tablighi Jamaat have been linked to terrorist incidents like the San Bernardino massacre and the Barcelona bombings. Although the Jamaat has always distanced itself from jihadist actions of its followers and at least publicly has never really endorsed jihadism, there are deep suspicions that its functionaries often facilitate or even turn a blind eye to the activities of jihadists.“Given that the pandemic caused by Covid 19 is going to change the way the world works, it is possible that there will be tremendous pressure on the Tablighi Jamaat to also change with the times. Its religious puritanism cannot become an excuse for endangering public health, nor can its criminal negligence in keeping infected foreign preachers and letting the infection spread be condoned”Given that the pandemic caused by Covid 19 is going to change the way the world works, it is possible that there will be tremendous pressure on the Tablighi Jamaat to also change with the times. Its religious puritanism cannot become an excuse for endangering public health, nor can its criminal negligence in keeping infected foreign preachers and letting the infection spread be condoned. Every time an organisation like the Tablighi Jamaat is given a free pass, it is emboldened and it feels that it can cock a snook at authorities without any fear of consequences. Such impunity will have to end in the new world order that the Covid 19 crisis is likely to bring about.Source ~ The Tablighi Jamaat tangle | ORFThis piece pretty much summed up the entire sequence of events along with relevant history and geography about the JAMAAT....Thank You ~
The news networks I watch promoted Sidney Powell's Kraken of lawsuits, but after they were submitted, we never heard of them again. Are you confused about this like I am?
I’m not confused at all. Sidney either exaggerated or outright lied about her mountains of incontrovertible evidence. She’s not a very good lawyer. Her “sworn affidavits” proved to be either hearsay or people who thought perfectly normal election procedures were fraud, because they didn’t bother attending the orientation sessions offered to all volunteer observers.Those people weren’t there to scrutinize the process…they were there to find the fraud they were certain was happening. When you’re on a mission to find wrongdoing, and you’re certain it’s there, you tend to see it everywhere, especially when you don’t know what normal procedures look like.The “news” outlets that promoted Sidney’s claims were the usual suspects…Fox News, OAN and other like-minded spreaders of any misinformation that props up their chosen narrative. Even some of the on-air people at Fox (I hesitate to call them “reporters) have broken ranks with Trump, because even they couldn’t stomach the lies any more.Trump lost…it’s that simple. There’s nothing confusing about losing a free and fair election. And even William Barr, who has been Trump’s devoted lackey since he became AG, says it was free and fair. How much clearer could it be?
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