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There are many Indian companies which have world class facilities (both public and private)Aeronautics:Joint Ventures:Sukhoi Series: JV ( Sukhoi Russia, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited)MIG Series: JV (MIG Russia, HAL)Dhruv:JV (MBB Germany, HAL)Indigenous:Light Combat Aircraft Tejas (HAL)Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft(ADA, HAL)Light Combat Helicopter (HAL)Tanks:Joint VenturesSarath: JV(kuganmashzavod BMP-2 Russia, ODF Medak)T-90 : JV(Uralvagonzavod Russia , Heavy Vehicles Factory Avadi)Vijayanta : JV( Vickers MBT UK, Heavy Vehicles Factory Avadi)IndigenousArjun Tank (DRDO, Heavy Vehicles Factory Avadi)Tank EX (CVRDE, Heavy Vehicles Factory Avadi)Missiles:Joint VenturesAnti Tank Guided Missile -French SS11B1 :JV(Aerospatiale France, BDL)Anti Tank Guided Missile - Konkurs M :JV (Tula Machinery Design Bureau Russia, BDL)Milan 2T:(MBDA France, BDL)BrahMos Supersonic Missile: JV (Russia, India)Indigenous (All the indigenous missiles were developed through Integrated Guided Missile Development Program)Short range surface-to-surface missile (code-named Prithvi)Short range low-level surface-to-air missile (code-named Trishul)Medium range surface-to-air missile (code-named Akash)Third-generation anti-tank missile (code-named Nag).Agni Missile SeriesMilitary Trucks/off road vehiclesJoint VenturesShaktiman trucks :JV (MAN, Vehicle Factory Jabalpur)Jonga :JV (Nissan, Vehicle Factory Jabalpur)BEML TATRA Series:(TATRA, BEML)IndigenousStallion Trucks series( Ashok Leyland ,VFJ)RadarsBEL Wepon locating radar :JV(LRDE, Bharath Electronics limited)Private companies:Defence Land Systems India(BAE Systems UK, Mahindra & Mahindra)Tata Advanced systems Limited, JV withSikorsky Aircraft Corporation to manufacture the Sikorsky S-92 helicoptersLockheed Martin to build aerostructures for the C-130 Hercules and the C-130J Super Hercules in indiaAshok Leyland Defence SystemsJV With AVIA (Prague, Czech Republic), Optare (Leeds,UK), Defiance (Detroit, USA), Hinduja Foundries (Chennai, India) and AlbonAir (Dortmund, Germany)

Thanks for A2A.The unofficially floated single engine fighter jet deals, brings 150–200 fighter jets into IAF, if the deal happens, as the time passes the price shall escalate and possibly something like rafale ,probably bit better may happen. But if the deal goes through at right pace , it is somewhere a 8–15 Bn $ deal. Something Tejas can’t fetch as it is indigenous hence cheap. At the same time some may argue that the single engine fighter from foreign under make in india scheme will be cheap, then my majesty you are wrong, have a look at this:Russian Kamov helicopters Make in India price 2.5 times more that original cost.It is the future and the price that attracts corporate houses. The tejas has already been ordered in large number, now if at all further Mk2 and NLCA Mk2 arrives the order shall barely touch 100 as AMCA/NAMCA shall be the next priority of forces. But the foreign single engine fighter shall be a more lucrative deal for the same number of foreign fighter as the tejas.If you are expecting that a Indian private company shall comeup like Desi Boeing or Desi Lockheed, then that reality is also at the horizon right now. Many tell that the SP model will create a desi hardcore Fighter maker, then thats wrong it shall only make a extra supplier for the global OEMs nothing more. Further I am reposting an similar answer to expalin it in detail:Why don't any Indian MNC, like TATA built/manufacture fighter jets for Indian Air Force?”By your question i consider you are asking about not just “Manufacturing” and creating from scratch. TATA-LM JV already produce the C-130 J for IAF. It also has tie-ups with Boeing and Sikorsky. Hence, Indian MNC has already the capability to atleast partially manufacture and assemble millitary air crafts.Pic: Do have a glance before moving further.Pic: S-92 helicopter parts supply under TATA-Sikorsky JV. C-130 parts supply and assembling in TATA-LM JV. Apache AH-64 Parts and assembling under TATA-Boeing JV.Now I take your question in the following form:”Why don't any Indian MNC, like TATA INDIGENOUSLY DESIGN, DEVELOPE AND MANUFACTURE fighter jets for Indian Air Force?”To get into this question we need to look upto the global leaders of fighter jet:Northrop Grumman(NG): GrummanLockheed Martin(LM): Lockheed Corporation+Martin MariettaBoeing(B)Dassault Aviation(DA)Sukhoi(SU)Mikoyan(MIG)SAABThe above list sums up pretty much all major fighter jets flying across globe. Now what we need to look at are the following:1.When were each of them founded?2.How many projects have been undertaken by each of them so far, which only includes building the majority of aircraft from scratch i.e design, develope and manufacture .When were each of them were established?Northrop-Grumman was formed when Northrop Corp bought Grumman Corp in 1994.Grumman corp being the aerospace division of this company was in millitary aerospace business since 1929.Lockheed being the parent millitary aerospace division was in business since 1912.Boeing has been in business since 1916.Dassault Aviation has been in business since 1929.Sukhoi: 1939MiG: 1939SAAB : Svenska Aero AB is the parent millitary aviation company found in 1921.Inference:All given companies have atleast 70 years old history of R&D and not just manufacturing. Hence they have the extremely important experience of at least one of the world wars.{NOTE: the most important point to remember till end is all of them started with their own air craft designing and developement project, doesn’t matter if it worked out or failed.}How many projects have been undertaken by each of them so far, which only includes building the majority of aircraft from scratch i.e design, develope and manufacture .This shall include experimental(E) plus production(P) projectsNG: E+P= More than 30 projectsLM: E+P= 24 projectsB: (Including civilian)E+P= 90+ projectsDA:E+P= 33SU: E+P=45MIG: E+P=64SAAB:E+P= oddly 25Inference: The leaders have the guts to experiment and fail and then build it better back again. Philosophical right?Coming back to India,Lets meet Hindustan Aeronautical Agency a.k.a Hindustan aircraft.Little history:1.HAL was established as Hindustan Aircraft in Bangalore in 1940 on 23 Dec 1940.2.What for?Ans: To assemble Harlow PC-5 in 1942. Then it became the major repair and overhaul center for the American aircrafts. Things ran similar till Mr. Kurt Tank joined HAL and designed the HF-24 Marut in 1960. The first Super sonic aircraft in Asia. It performed well in 1971 war but beuraucracy, corruption, lobby, red tape and lack of farsightedness killed this opportunity for India to grow. Again HAL became License manufacturer, repairing depot for foreign aircrafts.First completely HAL designed aircraft was HT 2 trainer developed in 1951. It was an trainer aircraft.Inference:SO INDIA ACTUALLY PRODUCED ITS OWN AIRCRAFT AFTER 11 YEARS OF STARTING ITS COMPANY.But by the time India was enjoying aerial supremacy with the 1200 newly bought Mig-21.The ADA was formed in 1984 to give a full-blown research into LCA to replace the Mig-21 in futureADA was India’s solution to cadre to it’s millitary aviation needs. But again this is India delay is paramount requirement for project , in 1989 IAF submitted requirement for the project and 1990 the funds were released.Inference: Where world started in early 1910s we started in 1990.With no tech absorption from HF-24 we started everything from scratch: New futuristic airframe, Radar, aer0dynamics , propulsion.We developed Tejas with little experience on HF-24 and several other trainers produced earlier completely by HAL. There were very few experimental aircrafts to experiment because of budget in peanuts.The major foreign companies have more experimental aircrafts projects than production aircrafts project. These experimental projects were research subjects regarding aerodynamics, avionics. They were not necessarilly required to perform as per expectation but their failures were part of the quantitative data of the research.But here in India let alone eperimental aircraft project which doesnot exist; even if the first prototype aircraft flies with a little degraded performance than expected the media and people comes forward with terms like:Failed project, Rejected Project, Wasting TAXPAYERS money, People are hungry and They spend money on these failed toys and what not.It should be noted that all major companies are where they are today because of numerous experimental aircafts, over a century of experimentation, hundreds of trial and error and billions spent on research.Coming to Indian MNCs:Most MNCs are typical desi Businessman who just want to invest today to harvest manifolds just the next day. Most of them don’t give $hit about R&D.But there are only two companies to atleast take the initiative: Tata, Bharat Forge and to some extent L&T rest are just grab a deal, form a JV with foreign OEM and enjoy for atleast two decades.TATA as of now is the only Indian MNC to have considerable experience in aerospace . Bharat forge has also invested in indigenous jet engines for drones.CONCLUSION:But as of now i can only see companies and startups coming up with parts to make an aircraft. With the humoungous amount of time, money and research involved and extremely less experience it is not at all possible to see a MNC coming up with a full blown Indigenously developed and designed aircraft.So most Indian companies in order gain experience on designing aircrafts tie up with DRDO or HAL and to gain experience on manufacturing tie up with foreign OEMs as foreign OEMs wont give them design experience because design of the aircraft is the sole property of the millitary and goverment of the country to which the OEM belongs.Pic credits: Google

Thanks for A2A.By your question i consider you are asking about not just “Manufacturing” and creating from scratch. TATA-LM JV already produce the C-130 J for IAF. It also has tie-ups with Boeing and Sikorsky. Hence, Indian MNC has already the capability to atleast partially manufacture and assemble millitary air crafts.Pic: Do have a glance before moving further.Pic: S-92 helicopter parts supply under TATA-Sikorsky JV. C-130 parts supply and assembling in TATA-LM JV. Apache AH-64 Parts and assembling under TATA-Boeing JV.Now I take your question in the following form:”Why don't any Indian MNC, like TATA INDIGENOUSLY DESIGN, DEVELOPE AND MANUFACTURE fighter jets for Indian Air Force?”To get into this question we need to look upto the global leaders of fighter jet:Northrop Grumman(NG): GrummanLockheed Martin(LM): Lockheed Corporation+Martin MariettaBoeing(B)Dassault Aviation(DA)Sukhoi(SU)Mikoyan(MIG)SAABThe above list sums up pretty much all major fighter jets flying across globe. Now what we need to look at are the following:1.When were each of them founded?2.How many projects have been undertaken by each of them so far, which only includes building the majority of aircraft from scratch i.e design, develope and manufacture .When were each of them were established?Northrop-Grumman was formed when Northrop Corp bought Grumman Corp in 1994.Grumman corp being the aerospace division of this company was in millitary aerospace business since 1929.Lockheed being the parent millitary aerospace division was in business since 1912.Boeing has been in business since 1916.Dassault Aviation has been in business since 1929.Sukhoi: 1939MiG: 1939SAAB : Svenska Aero AB is the parent millitary aviation company found in 1921.Inference:All given companies have atleast 70 years old history of R&D and not just manufacturing. Hence they have the extremely important experience of at least one of the world wars.{NOTE: the most important point to remember till end is all of them started with their own air craft designing and developement project, doesn’t matter if it worked out or failed.}How many projects have been undertaken by each of them so far, which only includes building the majority of aircraft from scratch i.e design, develope and manufacture .This shall include experimental(E) plus production(P) projectsNG: E+P= More than 30 projectsLM: E+P= 24 projectsB: (Including civilian)E+P= 90+ projectsDA:E+P= 33SU: E+P=45MIG: E+P=64SAAB:E+P= oddly 25Inference: The leaders have the guts to experiment and fail and then build it better back again. Philosophical right?Coming back to India,Lets meet Hindustan Aeronautical Agency a.k.a Hindustan aircraft.Little history:1.HAL was established as Hindustan Aircraft in Bangalore in 1940 on 23 Dec 1940.2.What for?Ans: To assemble Harlow PC-5 in 1942. Then it became the major repair and overhaul center for the American aircrafts. Things ran similar till Mr. Kurt Tank joined HAL and designed the HF-24 Marut in 1960. The first Super sonic aircraft in Asia. It performed well in 1971 war but beuraucracy, corruption, lobby, red tape and lack of farsightedness killed this opportunity for India to grow. Again HAL became License manufacturer, repairing depot for foreign aircrafts.First completely HAL designed aircraft was HT 2 trainer developed in 1951. It was an trainer aircraft.Inference:SO INDIA ACTUALLY PRODUCED ITS OWN AIRCRAFT AFTER 11 YEARS OF STARTING ITS COMPANY.But by the time India was enjoying aerial supremacy with the 1200 newly bought Mig-21.The ADA was formed in 1984 to give a full-blown research into LCA to replace the Mig-21 in futureADA was India’s solution to cadre to it’s millitary aviation needs. But again this is India delay is paramount requirement for project , in 1989 IAF submitted requirement for the project and 1990 the funds were released.Inference: Where world started in early 1910s we started in 1990.With no tech absorption from HF-24 we started everything from scratch: New futuristic airframe, Radar, aer0dynamics , propulsion.We developed Tejas with little experience on HF-24 and several other trainers produced earlier completely by HAL. There were very few experimental aircrafts to experiment because of budget in peanuts.The major foreign companies have more experimental aircrafts projects than production aircrafts project. These experimental projects were research subjects regarding aerodynamics, avionics. They were not necessarilly required to perform as per expectation but their failures were part of the quantitative data of the research.But here in India let alone eperimental aircraft project which doesnot exist; even if the first prototype aircraft flies with a little degraded performance than expected the media and people comes forward with terms like:Failed project, Rejected Project, Wasting TAXPAYERS money, People are hungry and They spend money on these failed toys and what not.It should be noted that all major companies are where they are today because of numerous experimental aircafts, over a century of experimentation, hundreds of trial and error and billions spent on research.Coming to Indian MNCs:Most MNCs are typical desi Businessman who just want to invest today to harvest manifolds just the next day. Most of them don’t give $hit about R&D.But there are only two companies to atleast take the initiative: Tata, Bharat Forge and to some extent L&T rest are just grab a deal, form a JV with foreign OEM and enjoy for atleast two decades.TATA as of now is the only Indian MNC to have considerable experience in aerospace . Bharat forge has also invested in indigenous jet engines for drones.CONCLUSION:But as of now i can only see companies and startups coming up with parts to make an aircraft. With the humoungous amount of time, money and research involved and extremely less experience it is not at all possible to see a MNC coming up with a full blown Indigenously developed and designed aircraft.So most Indian companies in order gain experience on designing aircrafts tie up with DRDO or HAL and to gain experience on manufacturing tie up with foreign OEMs as foreign OEMs wont give them design experience because design of the aircraft is the sole property of the millitary and goverment of the country to which the OEM belongs.Pic credits: Google