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I wasn't certain at all, that I am going to answer in this A2A of Mehmet. But the daemon of the roaring sound of waterflow of the terms of the present Quora question gave me an inspiration. It was Shirley: read her correct comments please, under Chris Young's answer. And that's my answer to her, as for the one of Mehmet, in part II, if I can, with my limited knowledge, to be, more or less, helpful.///Dear Shirley: the fact that you cannot order(today or a couple centuries ago) “a cup of hydor" in Greek speaking institution or shop,’cause it's archaic doesn’t mean that Mehmet is wrong! Βecause he's not examining (only) later period of humanity. Yes he's most fluent in Turkish as you in one other language and that's very very good for both of you, so I can learn from you in what way you think. Believe me if Mehmet wasn't Turkophone by birth giving to an Hellenophone, like me, so many golden informations, I would be less interested for whole matter, of present Quora question, because is boring if people of ONE ONLY language are interacting. ’Nearon ydor' that is: “young water” and we kept : young=nearo=nero = vερό. No mystery = ohi mistirio. It's the young = the offspring in English. The old of the days personified new season's water of river, after the winter, with the new person, a young. We have bas relief and inscriptions 25 centuries old were the city comes to celebrate and you see on the marble an old person and a young child (male because we are after Matriarchy) and under that picture on stone is written,in Lesbian inscription: “”tonde to doron"". And you start searching the scenery and no gift (doron) is visible. Miraculously the marble composition is intact: no gift whatsoever! Are they crazy? No : the gift must be obvious to Demos,the City (foule); they say the ancestors:“easy to intercept things ommited” What's in front of our eyes& we ain't see it? Hm, just people & these two figures. Additional info by a clue,the older one represent river god Achelwos.Other is unnamed ‘cause he's the new, a young river god by the same name and no need for other name ‘cause we are in twilight:they are never going to coexist;is not when is going to start moving(flow), it's when it's conceived the important,as Koreans:in Korean way,your birthday is at the conception. Dead time: the whole system is frozen and the pun is i n t e n d e d: 30 of November. We have exact time: 18.00 hours and for 23 h and 59 minutes, the time stops. La Toussaint in Francophone areas , All Saints moment. La Releve or the change of guard. The gift is the young. The new, neo, nearo, nero. Merely four weeks before Janus (31st December). But Stars change with millenias, as sounds and, thus, as terms and words….and way of thinking, at a point that we cannot see not even obvious things. Anyway we have our “different gods” now. Do we? I will make it an answer//End of part I.Before starting Part II, one explanation: Asian “SU” for hydor(Asian I mean Turkish), “eSU",a god in Gaul &“YeSU”, a name of Near East, have absolutely no relation with each other.I’m 50% certain.As for the present question , I cannot really help, only to speculate, because I am not even amateur linguist.Maybe spectator of the visit of word Lexi, of words, Lexeis. C'mon Lady Muse://Sar ghoda in Punjab mean “Hermit (by/of) small Lake” (not only artificial)& in Greek “Erimitis mikris Limnis". You see how easy is the Greek: “Ερημίτης μικρής λίμνης”; sar, shar, char, çar, tsar, tsur.From Punjab to Armenia:’the primordial waters': ta hydata plural of to hydor, the water, that we talked about(Shirley) tSouR the waters(Armenian)What's the GIFT = δώροv, doron of Gods? Is the Ύδωρ! HYDOR = DORON, no H in Greek, it's interesting, here, the δωρ,DoR.Not even the Y: DR =ZR. In Phoenicia and Egypt. The mother of JC is called by half of Semites, as Z and rest as Δ,D: the Adra, Aδra or Azra MarYam. How far or how near is the S now? Divine figure, water divinity, since latter is directly related with previous religious layer: the Hadra or Hathor, Haθοr. As is THunder isn’t T, is Θ=th. Means the Virgin, Our Lady, Notre Dame & maybe (I’m rather certain): Stella Maris! The Blue or the Green.It's the same?Yes,it's matter of faith (see existing Quora question for these two colors and their similar name of color).HaDRa=aZuRe,a blue - green Goddess.She's the M,the OM the Mother,the MA deity,mae or moya in Egypt, the dea of virgin element of life giving: “hydor”…and so DR = SR.The gift - doron of our existence.Now to Asia, from were the Turkish language came. Did they heard that etymon, somewhere near Ghazni,this above Punjabi place name?Yes , if not they took it from Greeks, but even the Greeks took it from same place,this protoetymon. Not so vicious cycle.And after Turkish language left Crete Island,you can ask an older Cretan,in year 2020: “where you’ve been?"and the answer is the following (in “Cretan"): “Anevikame ton DeRe”(we climbed the DeRe)Who's this DeRe, from where it came and how's is used? Cretans use it with meaning: we climb amont, upstream, from anevikamen=climb(up) the water, ryax, ρυαξ, ρυακας (αρκάς?); We’ve climbed, following the brook bank. Following the water, yDoR in word by word meaning. DaR is the source, the house, the starting point in Semitic.Who took the dr or zr or sr root from the other, has no meaning to search further.Saronic gulf and the seaside Sherona valley in Israel:when scientific society ignores an etymon they say “it's a name of a hero”! Aka obscure. Saronis too. Hero or king Sharon in Attica. Yes but not in Near East:SRn=of the Sea.As in Armenian Lear the hill, Learin the hilly. It's simply the water (the sea) or better “by the water”.SRn a seaside locality;as we say ’sto yalo’ & yalova, from als, alos=yalos: the sea. In Calabar language (Nigeria),water & Ocean is the same,no separate term.About s=d=δ=Ζ(=G=Γ=γ). Γ,γ, in Greek, gh like and gave ghurna and ghrana. Γούρνα, Γράνα. Ιn Crete toponyme Ghournes outside Heraklio (Kastro),the place is likely an estuary,(bog)mire, between a ravin and the sea. Anyway it denotes ponds, lakkoi, lazzia as in Cyprus Island. Ghrana’s a moat. But moat is not dry passage:it's a rous, ρους, a current. Etc, etc…Ψαρι, psari in Greek=a fish. Fish , ihthys , Ιχθύς , ΙΧΘΥΣ, in the Βahiria;it translates as fish in the summits, ridge(s). Bahirac, bayrak. Greeks in contact with Ottomans for some centuries kept some (understatement) words: I heard in Thrace and in the Pontians(chez les Pontians). The latter call the korypho- grammes,top lines in that way: parhar, ba(r)har, bahar. Thracians say : Bahiria. How is this possible? In Urdu the mountain is called Pahar. Bahar in Arabic is Sea, with B=P,Arabs don't pronounce P.Goths heard somewhere, beyond the Caucasus, the etymon BacHaR, Vashar and make it wassar. And in the highest ridges of Arcadia, Alaric & his (West)Goths, heard near forest of Pholoe, in the 390s ad,among other words,two interesting ones: HLM & BSR. H.o.lm is island (in the Baltic Sea)and bassar (2 paragraphs below).Helmos is the birthplace of the mighty God of the Edge. Of abrupt ridges and the one between death and life. The Ωmega and the Alpha ,in that order is resurrection.Yes he's the one of the roundtrip. As psychopomp.Hermes, Ermis, Hormuz of the Limes, edges (ridges) protector. He’s in reality par excellence:god of the Katavasia and Anavasia, “anevikame ton dere” (see above). Helmos is his birth place. Inside a megharon:an underground, on steep rock cavity,is his 1st dwelling. It's touristic spot(2020), similar to Amarnath! Initially it's a (underground) lake (see sar ghoda), so HRM emanates from HLM. Lake, Island, Hill = HLM = Helmos: Xελμός (in Greek), the name of the hill.Bassar? Bashar in Aramean of Syria, is Evangelism, the Good News : Bashara, to be exact. Even now in Lebanon we have the locality Bsharre, where the Church of divinity of the Good Announcement, Assounthion of Good News for"Arrival"of the young gift!Ask a Romanian:’how do you called the Meron?’, in his language:agheasma.Ask him again ‘how is called the word Church’:BSR;ask now Greeks what they hear: bsari for Lebanese village:bs=ps.Ask ancient Hellenes, how they call in Arcadian plateau, God of all liquids water,wine: DeNiZ(=sea) the BSARAE or “Dionysos ho Vassareas”. Vassara,say Greek linguists, it's alepouda (sic), fox.I say: the linguists are the foxes. Dionysos has no relation whatsoever with no fox, but with panthers(*)&temples in high places;in the wilderness Hermes initiate him,with the grapes of rage, eros & spirit (wine). And he's beyond this clever & lovely animal (fox). He's the Wind, at the summit, a (horm-itikos) cascade, a Fool (Zero card) & he jumps with “a dog by the thigh” and that's why he is call Mero-vlithis, Meron-traphis, Mero-raphis, from rapto,sar t orius, tailor (tinker no,soldier)&the “Barber” of the Orphics! He lives in the sides,versants of ravine of hills, the sares, in dialectal Greek and siruni in Sicily. Snow (hydor) God descends inside nepheli (see in the Bible),in Saint Simon's day(10.28):different weather that era.I heard it in Corleone by Mr. Santoro (Sicily), local proverb:”San Simuni(28 Oct) nivi al sirruni!”.God of the “Flat Line",of life- death,Ermis,hermite,initiate God of all edges Dionysos, God of Extremes & Akres: the God with One Holy Foot, arrives, lower, in Olympia, where makes his dramatic entrance among Stadiums of Olympic Games&the Virgins salute Him,with hymns and dithyrambs. And meeting the Sea (delta), God BSaRi (fish), cannot swim! That's because he IS THE water and water needs not to swim. He learn that at his first jump,vout(i)a, dive,as infant,in the Thracian Maroneia. Fortunately the Goddess Thetis was there.End of part II&end of text:so the one who said that “He’s the Hydor,He’s a Fish(IXΘΥΣ) and He’s the Vine(wine god) is who?”.Answer of ancient Hellenes:One(Basileas and) Unknown God.I might add:a Master of Metamorphosis.{He can't swim or dive, just balancing (klydonizetai) on the surface:rather‘walks’on surface(of hydor)of lakes}.(*)JC inEgyptian apocrypha's called'the son of the Pantera’Dimitris