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Because they are part of the Navy, and in the Navy you don’t salute unless you are covered (have your hat on), and you rarely (almost never) wear your cover indoors.There’s a lot less saluting in the military than most people realize - I think movies tend to make it seem like everyone is always saluting everyone else, but it doesn’t work that way in real life.I was on submarines, and spent 99.99% of my in-port time on my sub, or on the pier my sub was tied up to going back and forth to the tender. Being on the sub counted as indoors, and on the pier (just subs and the sub tender on our pier in Charleston), the rule was you only needed to salute somebody once per day. In practice, unless you met an O-4 or higher, you just didn’t bother.Sometimes, if I met the sailors in my division out on the pier, they might decide to screw around with me by saluting, so that I would be forced to salute back. Lots of subtle layers going on with that practice…”providing a customary courtesy to an officer” counted as screwing around with him, but that’s submariners for you.The one exception in all this lack of saluting was that when you board a ship or a sub, you salute the ensign (the U.S. flag at the aft end of the vessel) and the sailor on watch on the quarterdeck - no exceptions.

I have over 30 years experience surveying caves. I have also taught cave rescue to the National Park Service (USA) and the US Army. I have been involved in a few cave rescues.My answer is NO, not under any circumstance.Let me list the ways:The sub was long and rigid. That made it almost impossible to go through multiple choke points. In addition, the water currents in those choke points would easily have pinned the sub against the wall (think Venturi)The dimensions listed at the choke point are for the widest part of the survey point. It doesn’t include projections or snag points that would definitely block the sub.Then there is the issue of flexibility. The sub had none. That would make it difficult to go around corners.The sub was untested. The swimming pool test was a good start, but woefully inadequate. You would need further testing in a cave shaped space, preferably with projections and also in the dark. Add in a strong current and silted water to mimic in cave situations. Only then can you tell how the sub would actually handle. Remember, this involved people’s lives so needed extra testing.The sub could not easily handle vertical or horizontal transport. It was not tested or certified for vertical lifts. That would mean that you would have to waste precious time transferring the patient to a stretcher then back into the sub for each sump. This would waste critical transport time when rain and flooding were on the horizon.There was no time to do in cave testing. A test would have greatly impacted the rescue mission, as it involved the only clear passage in the cave.Simply put, you don’t put untested equipment into a cave rescue. There was a big chance that the sub would not have fit at all. The sub could have twisted sideways in the water currents, jammed, and blocked the only passageway out. This would have trapped humans in the cave and potentially led to their death.The consequences of any failure were just too high.

There was a military war game conducted a while ago where a pair of Submarines went against a carrier group in the Atlantic.At the end of the operation, the debrief was underway where the carrier commander confidently announced they were successful in avoiding any damage or detection from the subs.The sub commander, however, opened a briefcase that had numerous pictures captured from his periscope that had targets superimposed on top of the carrier as well as half the support group.The subs had managed to pick off the carrier and 9 of its escorts without being detected…while having its periscope above breach.Thanks for all the upvotes guys :)Was my.first ever answer.** a lot of people mentioning how once the subs open fire on the task force, they would be hunted down. The aim of a carrier escort fleet is to escort and protect the carrier. If the subs inflict such damage to halt or straight up end operational effectiveness of the carrier, then they won against the carfier fleet**