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Coal power is plentiful, cheap and reliable unlike wind and solar that never stand alone without support from fossil fuels. India and China are increasing investments in long term coal power plants for these reasons. They realize the false economics of following the political only goals of the Paris Accord lacking scientific validity.China and India big coal powered countries also read the science studies and books that increasingly debunk any climate crisis from more CO2 plant food in the atmosphere. For example, this paper just in -Physicists’ Lab Experiment Shows A CO2 Increase From 0.04% To 100% Leads To No Observable WarmingTwo University of Oslo physicists designed several variations of a tabletop experiment trying to confirm the IPCC’s claimed CO2-forcing capacity. Instead they found (a) 100% (1,000,000 ppm) CO2 “heats” air to about the same temperature that non-greenhouse gases (N2, O2 [air], Ar) do, and (b) no significant temperature difference in containers with 0.04% vs. 100% CO2. Observations, experiments do not support a large forcing effect for CO2 Real-world outdoor observations indicate that even a massive variance in the CO2 concentration, from 0.1% to 75% during a 24-hour period over a mofette field , has no detectable effect in stimulating changes to the surface temperature. Instead, the CO2 concentration changes in response to the temperature. Indoor tabletop experiments also demonstrate there is a very small temperature difference when adding 100% CO2 to a container . And even this tiny temperature change can be attributed to the reduction in convective cooling effect of adding CO2 molecules, not the radiative or “greenhouse” effect of CO2. There is also no temperature difference detected when comparing CO2’s “heating” capacity to that of a non-greenhouse gas like Argon ( Wagoner et al., 2010 ), as the “ temperature rose by approximately the same amount and at the same rate as for CO2 ” when 100% Argon was used. Another study questions claims of CO2’s temperature-forcing effect And now a recently published study ( Seim and Olsen, 2020 ) further affirms these experimental observations. The authors tested the forcing effects of increased IR radiation on temperature using a specially-designed meter-long chamber, a 500 watt halogen bulb, and IR radiation detectors. The fundamental assumption of the greenhouse theory is that increasing the CO2 concentration by a factor of 2 or more (i.e., from 0.03% to 0.06%) leads to 2 to 4 degrees of additional warming (at least), aligning with expectations from the Stefan-Boltzmann law. Instead of observing these strong temperature responses to increasing CO2 concentrations, Seim and Olsen found there is almost no effect at all – perhaps an additional 0.15 ° C at most – when adding pure (100%) CO2 to a halogen-heated chamber (+30°C). There isn’t even a detectable difference in temperature when comparing the temperature effects of CO2 to a non-greenhouse gas like Argon. The results of these experiments led the authors to “ question the fundament of the forcing laws used by the IPCC .” Notable quotes from the Seim and Olsen, 2020 study: • “[T]he idea that backscatters from CO2 is the main driver of global temperatures might be wrong.” • “[T]he temperature [in a thermophile] with [100%] CO2 increased slightly, about 0.5% [an additional 0.15°C for a container heated from 20°C to 50°C].” • “We do not observe any significant difference in the two curves due to the increase in the CO2 concentration from ca. 400 ppm to about 100% in the front chamber.” • “The results of our study show the near-identical heating curves when wehttps://notrickszone.com/2021/04/01/physicists-lab-experiment-shows-a-co2-increase-from-0-04-to-100-leads-to-no-observable-warming/By Kenneth Richard on1. April 2021Two University of Oslo physicists designed several variations of a tabletop experiment trying to confirm the IPCC’s claimed CO2-forcing capacity. Instead they found (a) 100% (1,000,000 ppm) CO2 “heats” air to about the same temperature that non-greenhouse gases (N2, O2 [air], Ar) do, and (b) no significant temperature difference in containers with 0.04% vs. 100% CO2.Observations, experiments do not support a large forcing effect for CO2Real-world outdoor observations indicate that even a massive variance in the CO2 concentration, from 0.1% to 75% during a 24-hour period over a mofette field, has no detectable effect in stimulating changes to the surface temperature. Instead, the CO2 concentration changes in response to the temperature.Indoor tabletop experiments also demonstrate there is a very small temperature difference when adding 100% CO2 to a container. And even this tiny temperature change can be attributed to the reduction in convective cooling effect of adding CO2 molecules, not the radiative or “greenhouse” effect of CO2.There is also no temperature difference detected when comparing CO2’s “heating” capacity to that of a non-greenhouse gas like Argon (Wagoner et al., 2010), as the “temperature rose by approximately the same amount and at the same rate as for CO2” when 100% Argon was used.Another study questions claims of CO2’s temperature-forcing effectAnd now a recently published study (Seim and Olsen, 2020) further affirms these experimental observations. The authors tested the forcing effects of increased IR radiation on temperature using a specially-designed meter-long chamber, a 500 watt halogen bulb, and IR radiation detectors.The fundamental assumption of the greenhouse theory is that increasing the CO2 concentration by a factor of 2 or more (i.e., from 0.03% to 0.06%) leads to 2 to 4 degrees of additional warming (at least), aligning with expectations from the Stefan-Boltzmann law.Instead of observing these strong temperature responses to increasing CO2 concentrations, Seim and Olsen found there is almost no effect at all – perhaps an additional 0.15°C at most – when adding pure (100%) CO2 to a halogen-heated chamber (+30°C). There isn’t even a detectable difference in temperature when comparing the temperature effects of CO2 to a non-greenhouse gas like Argon.The results of these experiments led the authors to “question the fundament of the forcing laws used by the IPCC.”Image Source: Seim and Olsen, 2020Notable quotes from the Seim and Olsen, 2020 study:• “[T]he idea that backscatters from CO2 is the main driver of global temperatures might be wrong.”• “[T]he temperature [in a thermophile] with [100%] CO2 increased slightly, about 0.5% [an additional 0.15°C for a container heated from 20°C to 50°C].”• “We do not observe any significant difference in the two curves due to the increase in the CO2 concentration from ca. 400 ppm to about 100% in the front chamber.”• “The results of our study show the near-identical heating curves when we change from air [N2, O2] to 100% CO2 or to Argon gas with low CO2 concentration.”• “The warming of the Al-plate was also measured, but no extra heating was found by filling CO2 in the front chamber.”• “These findings might question the fundament of the forcing laws used by the IPCC.”There is a third option for climate action that accomodates increasing cheap and efficient coal powered electricity and the evidence is that China is on this path.Climate change: China's forest carbon uptake 'underestimated'By Jonathan AmosBBC Science CorrespondentPublished28 October 2020Climate change - BBC NewsIMAGE COPYRIGHTSPLimage captionSome tree planting has come from a desire to establish vibrant timber and paper industriesChina's aggressive policy of planting trees is likely playing a significant role in tempering its climate impacts.An international team has identified two areas in the country where the scale of carbon dioxide absorption by new forests has been underestimated.Taken together, these areas account for a little over 35% of China's entire land carbon "sink", the group says.The researchers' analysis, based on ground and satellite observations, is reported in Nature journal.Norway funds satellite map of world's tropical forestsClimate change: older trees loss continue around the worldA carbon sink is any reservoir - such as peatlands, or forests - that absorbs more carbon than it releases, thereby lowering the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere.China is the world's biggest source of human-produced carbon dioxide, responsible for around 28% of global emissions.But it recently stated an intention to peak those emissions before 2030 and then to move to carbon neutrality by 2060…The specifics of how the country would reach these goals is not clear, but it inevitably has to include not only deep cuts in fossil fuel use but ways also to pull carbon out of the atmosphere… more below.Please review this related post that helps explain why China is building so many more coal fired power plants.James Matkin's answer to Why does China have so many coal plants?This is a most pressing question with implications far beyond coal in my opinion. Is the West being blind sided by China’s expansions of coal fired energy at “insane levels” around the world and at home? Does China privately understand from its scientists that natural forces not minute amounts of CO2 from coal are the driving forces of climate change giving China confidence to go it alone on coal power expansions? There is evidence that they do. See NATURE STUDY below.Coal power does not make the climate too hot if anything it can cause localized cooling by the aerosols hiding the sun. No observed experiments since the flawed experiment of John Tyndal used by the old Svante Arrhenius in the 1800’s to hypothesize that CO2 has a climate impact.“Andrew Bolt: Well, China, I don’t actually believe that China believes in this global warming stuff, right? They’ve had a lot of scientists say, “Hey, listen, this is not a real issue.” I just think they’re just playing the West though. They think oh the West is stupid enough to de-industrialise while we get richer. Fine….“People recognize that they’ve got to have cheap power. And the cheapest power for most countries is coal. It’s certainly the cheapest. We have the best coal in the world, the cheapest in the world. We should have the lowest cost of electricity in the world, we did until recently”.Climate Warriors Furious Over India & China’s Insatiable Thirst for Coal-Fired PowerThe Speech Erin O’Toole Could Have GivenGwyn MorganApril 5, 2021Gwyn Morgan is a contributing writer for The Globe and Mail. He has become one of Canada’s foremost business leaders and ardent champion of the importance of Canadian-headquartered international enterprises. Gwyn has served on the board of directors of five global corporations. He serves as a trustee of the Fraser Institute, the Manning Centre for Building Democracy and the Dalai Lama Center for Peace and Education.While China’s industry continues to profit from rapidly-growing, low-cost coal-fired electricity, Canada imposes a carbon tax and pours money into high-priced, inefficient alternative energy – while becoming ever-more tied to Chinese manufactured imports. (Sources clockwise from upper-left: Mike Mareen/ Shutterstock; Ian D, licensed under CC BY 2.0; Adam Melnyk/ Shutterstock; Frame China/ Shutterstock)Today, coal-burning electric generating plants make China the world’s largest emitter of greenhouse gases. China has pledged to turn itself into a green energy champion by replacing those coal-fired plants with wind and solar power. But a recent joint report by the U.S.-based Global Energy Monitor and the Helsinki-based Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air found that China last year added three times more coal-fired electrical capacity than the rest of the world combined. Many more plants are still under construction, and those new plants alone will soon be producing more than Canada’s national total of greenhouse gas emissions. Canada’s manufacturers have a much lower carbon footprint than China, partly because we have converted nearly all our coal-burning plants to much lower-emitting natural gas.In modern-day China, the Communist regime is exercising a classic example of Sun Tzu’s ancient art of strategic deception. What better way to ‘subdue the enemy without battle’ than to trick Canada into implementing carbon taxes on Canadian-made goods, all while further driving up electricity costs by building more of the wind and solar facilities that have already hollowed-out Ontario’s industrial heartland.President Xi knows we in Canada are addicted to China’s cheap manufactured goods, and he must be overjoyed to see our government’s carbon taxes and costly green power plans further tighten the financial noose on our hard-pressed manufacturers. He has us exactly where he wants us.Share a link on TwitterThose new alternative energy facilities in Canada will largely be equipped with panels and components made at a handsome profit in China – whose manufacturers benefit from the low energy costs of largely coal-fired electricity. Meanwhile, as we continue to kill our manufacturers with carbon taxes, all those higher-carbon-footprint goods we import from China drive up global emissions.In his approach to Canada, Chinese President Xi Jinping (above) seems to be employing Han Dynasty general Sun Tzu’s (below) principle to “subdue the enemy without battle.” (Source of upper image: Paul Kagame, licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 2.0President Xi knows we in Canada are addicted to China’s cheap manufactured goods, and he must be overjoyed to see our government’s carbon taxes and costly green power plans further tighten the financial noose on our hard-pressed manufacturers. He has us exactly where he wants us, and no amount of indignation over hostage diplomacy, Uyghur forced-labour camps or his other outrageous behaviour will change that.Addiction to Chinese goods represents the most existential threat to the West since the Cold War with the Soviet Bloc. But while the Soviet threat included mutual nuclear destruction, Chinese President XI has adopted Sun Tzu’s strategy ‘to contest for world supremacy’. Xi’s words, ‘the East is rising – the West is declining’ couldn’t be clearer. Yet the Trudeau government continues to accept his green assurances.So what would a new Conservative government do? We will encourage manufacturing of our own goods by eliminating carbon taxes and we’ll transfer those carbon taxes to those high-emission Chinese imports. And we’ll work with the provinces to streamline regulations and remove internal trade barriers upon manufacturers. We’ll build jobs not in China – but here at home!It’s time for a Prime Minister who refuses to be a pawn in Xi’s grasping hand.Thank you all very much. And God Bless the great country of Canada and all its people.”Gwyn Morgan is the retired founding CEO of EnCana Corp., formerly Canada’s largest producer of natural gas.CHINA SCIENTIST FIND THE DRIVING FORCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT GREENHOUSE GASESMmm how does this figure in to the Xi plan?Here is a powerful science paper published by the famous NATURE JOURNAL by China scientists working in Beijing answering the key issue what causes climate change? The answer is the driving forces are ‘the El Niño–Southern Oscillation cycle and the Hale sunspot cycle, respectively. Moreover, these driving forces were modulated in amplitude by signals with millennial timescales.’Greenhouse gases are not the driving forces of climate change therefore.Do you think China politicians like Xi would know about this study and therefore knew that the whole Paris Accord therefore is a deck of cards only? Are we being blindided by China? Yes.Identification of the driving forces of climate change using the longest instrumental temperature recordIdentification of the driving forces of climate change using the longest instrumental temperature recordGeli Wang,Peicai Yang &Scientific Reports volume 7, Article number: 46091 (2017) Cite this article2488 Accesses9 Citations50 AltmetricIdentification of the driving forces of climate change using the longest instrumental temperature recordAbstractThe identification of causal effects is a fundamental problem in climate change research. Here, a new perspective on climate change causality is presented using the central England temperature (CET) dataset, the longest instrumental temperature record, and a combination of slow feature analysis and wavelet analysis. The driving forces of climate change were investigated and the results showed two independent degrees of freedom —a 3.36-year cycle and a 22.6-year cycle, which seem to be connected to the El Niño–Southern Oscillation cycle and the Hale sunspot cycle, respectively. Moreover, these driving forces were modulated in amplitude by signals with millennial timescales.IntroductionCausality analysis in climate change is an active and challenging research area that remains highly uncertain. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)1 advocates that human activity is the most important driving force of climate change, while some researchers have argued that natural forces might be the main cause. These different views are mainly due to a lack of methods to address the complexity of climate system and insufficiency in observational climate data.Global circulation model (GCM) simulations are generally used to investigate the causality of climate change. However, due to the limited knowledge of the climate system, large uncertainties are still associated with GCMs; therefore, the improvement of current GCMs to meet the requirements for causality analysis is still an urgent issue. An alternative method to GCMs is to use long-term observational climate data to study the driving forces of climate change, a method that has recently benefited from the great progress made by physical and biological scientists in studying the driving forces in non-stationary time series. The main advantage of this approach is that observational data can be used to directly extract the driving forces of an unknown dynamical system. This can be achieved by two techniques. The first technique involves finding the driving forces by studying the connections among different physical factors. These types of relations cannot be established using general correlation analysis, but only in dynamical directional influences. Granger causality2 is a pioneering approach for achieving this task. Mutual information and transfer entropy3 are used to identify cause-effect relationships between components which is equivalent to Granger causality in the linear case and some attempts have been made to extend Granger causality to the nonlinear case4,5. Recently, Sugihara et al.6 presented another effective method known as convergent cross-mapping (CCM) to justify causality in some biological complex systems. Tsonis et al.7 used CCM to identify a causal relationship between cosmic rays and interannual variation in global temperature.The second technique is to directly extract the driving force information behind the observational data. For example, cross-prediction error8 and slow feature analysis (SFA)9 have been successfully applied to extract slowly changing driving forces from non-stationary time series. To evaluate SFA, a modified logistic map has been used to test the ability of SFA to construct the driving forces from an observational time series, and the results showed that there is a good agreement between the constructed and the true driving forces with a correlation coefficient of 0.99810. This suggests that SFA is suitable for extracting the driving force from observational time series…Figure 1: The Driving force constructed using CET dataset and SFA with embedding dimension m = 13.Discussion and ConclusionsA new investigation on climate change causality is given using the longest instrumental temperature record — the CET dataset— which was analyzed using SFA and wavelet analysis. This investigation into the driving forces of climate change reproduces a 3.36-year cycle and a 22.6-year cycle, which may be connected to the ENSO cycle and the Hale sunspot cycle, respectively. Other beats from interdecadal to centennial components were also reproduced at 7.5, 14.5, 67.7, 90.4, 113.9 and 215 years, which could also be induced by ENSO and the Hale sunspot cycle as they are harmonics of the two basic frequencies. They are all strongly amplitude and phase modulated, and the modulating signals acting on the scale components are oscillations with a period of about 1000 years, which represent the impacts of GHGs as presented using the surface air temperature time series in the Northern Hemisphere in Yang16.Tung and Zhou25 presented an interesting analysis result for the scale structure of the CET time series and found a scale component with a spectrum band from 50 to 90 years that propagates through the phase space of the indices considered as the AMO, due to the large thermal inertia associated with slow oceanic processes. This scale signal is reflected in the Northern Hemisphere area-averaged surface temperature signal and the CET dataset, which explains, by inference, a large fraction of the multidecadal non-uniformity of the observed global surface temperature warming in the twentieth century. However, the relationship between the 67.7 years found in this paper and the solar scales suggests that this climate component plays a key role in multidecadal variability26. This scale signal that has a period of 67.7 years in the CET dataset is regarded as a harmonic of the solar cycle because of the harmonic relationship with the Hale sunspot cycle. Note that a quasi-millennial cycle could also be forced on the Sun by the rotation of the Trigon of the great conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn18. These results clearly indicate that both solar and climate oscillations are linked to planetary motion.Identifying causality in complex climate systems can be difficult; therefore, this study is a further attempt to better understand causality using the longest instrumental time series of temperature based on observed climate data associated with climate change. Such an approach may provide another method to study causality in climate change. As an alternative approach to GCMs, the technique directly utilizes the observed nonstationary data to directly construct the driving forces, referred to as the ‘inverse problem’ in mathematics.It has been shown in a number of other fields27,28,29 that SFA can be applied to nonstationary time series to estimate a single underlying driving force with high accuracy. However, application in the climate sciences, which involves nonlinear and complex systems, is at a preliminary stage. There are uncertainties related to observational limitations, as well as missing or uncertain external forces. In particular, SFA may not account for possible nonlinear interactions between the different scales. In addition, this study used the longest instrumental record in central England, in which different sources of uncertainty may exist. Further work to evaluate this source of uncertainty is therefore desirable. These issues, among others, will be considered in forthcoming studies.Published commentsJames Matkin 4 years agoThis research is very relevant and should make climate alarmists pause in their crusade against Co2 emissions from fossil fuels. Far too much focus on Co2 like a one trick pony in a big tent circus where solar radiation is a more compelling show.The thrust of recent research has demonstrated that climate changes continually and is determined by natural forces that humans have no significant control over. Many leading scientists have presented research of other "driving forces" and cautioned against the arrogance of many that "the science is settled." See Judith Curry of the Georgia Institute of Technology and blogger at Climate Etc. talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about climate change. Curry argues that climate change is a "wicked problem" with a great deal of uncertainty surrounding the expected damage as well as the political and technical challenges of dealing with the phenomenon. She emphasizes the complexity of the climate and how much of the basic science remains incomplete. The conversation closes with a discussion of how concerned citizens can improve their understanding of climate change and climate change policy…−James Matkin jack dale 4 years agoYou unfairly take a swipe at Judith Curry as the link in her blog did not ignore or leave out the reference to the "long period cycle of GHGs" as you suggest. Leaving out relevant scientific data is the preserve of rogue scientists like Michael Mann author of the infamous and fudged "hockey stick" graph. The Chinese study focused on the simple question: is climate change natural or artificially caused by fossil fuel emissions as believed by the IPCC and some scientists? The study concludes the "driving forces" are natural climate variation. The study using real data rather than computer models refers to anthropogenic warming and does not identify it as a driving force. You focus one the "long period signals of 1000 years for GHGs does not suggest GHGs are driving forces, particularly the small amount of GHGs emitted by humans. Yes, the natural solar driving forces are "modulated in amplitude by GHGs on a millennial time scale." But this does not make GHGs the driving forces of climate change. I suggest the analogy is GHGs are like turning on the bright lights of a car. The bright lights modulates the amplitude of the lights, but surely they are not the driving force of the headlights. The importance of the Chinese study is that climate change cannot be stopped because the driving forces are natural and will not yield to fiddling with Co2 levels as the Paris Climate Accord attempts to do.Identification of the driving forces of climate change using the longest instrumental temperature recordThis just in confirming the observed driving forces of climate change in the Chinese study.WRITTEN BY DAVID WHITEHOUSE ONAPR 6, 2021. POSTED IN LATEST NEWSThe Climate Role Of Our Sun ConfirmedIf you ask most climate scientists, they will tell you that the Sun’s small variability is unimportant when it comes to influencing climate.They may have to change their minds if a new line of research holds up.It seems that solar variability can drive climate variability on Earth on decadal timescales (the decadal climatic variability that Michael Mann recently ‘proved’ doesn’t exist).That’s the conclusion of a new study showing a correlation between the end of solar cycles and a switch from El Nino to La Nina conditions in the Pacific Ocean.Top: Six-month smoothed monthly sunspot number from SILSO. Bottom: Oceanic El Niño Index from NOAA. Red and blue boxes mark the El Niño and La Niña periods in the repeating pattern. Source: Climate Etc, September 2019It’s a result that could significantly improve the predictability of the largest El Nino and La Nina events, which have several global climate effects.Energy from the Sun is the major driver of our entire Earth system and makes life on Earth possible,” said Scott McIntosh, of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, a co-author of the paper. “Even so, the scientific community has been unclear on the role that solar variability plays in influencing weather and climate events here on Earth. This study shows there’s reason to believe it absolutely does and why the connection may have been missed in the past.”The approximately 11-year solar cycle – the appearance (and disappearance) of spots on the Sun – has been known for hundreds of years.In this new study, the researchers use a 22-year “clock” for solar activity derived from the Sun’s magnetic polarity cycle, which they consider a more regular alternative to the 11-year solar cycle.This research was published last year.‘Coincidence Unlikely‘Applying this to climate studies the researchers found that the five estimates of the end of a solar cycle that occurred between 1960 and 2010-11 all coincided with a flip from an El Nino (when sea surface temperatures are warmer than average) to a La Nina (when the sea surface temperatures are cooler than average).The end of the most recent solar cycle – happening now – is also coincident with the beginning of a La Nina event. Robert Leamon of the University of Maryland/Baltimore County said, “Five consecutive terminators lining up with a switch in the El Nino oscillation is not likely to be a coincidence.”In fact, only a 1 in 5,000 chance or less (depending on the statistical test) that all five terminator events included in the study would randomly coincide with the flip in ocean temperatures.Now that a sixth terminator event — and the corresponding start of a new solar cycle in 2020 — has also coincided with a La Nina event, the chance of a random occurrence is even more remote.The paper does not delve into what physical connection between the Sun and Earth could be responsible for the correlation, but the authors note that there are several possibilities that warrant further study, including the influence of the Sun’s magnetic field on the number of cosmic rays that escape into the solar system and ultimately bombard Earth.However, a robust physical link between cosmic ray variations and climate has yet to be determined.If further research can establish that there is a physical connection and that changes on the Sun are truly causing variability in the oceans, then we may be able to improve our ability to predict El Nino and La Nina events,” McIntosh said.Read more at the GWPFClimate Warriors Furious Over India & China’s Insatiable Thirst for Coal-Fired PowerApril 5, 2021 by stopthesethings Leave a CommentFor years now, we’ve been told that “coal is dead” and that India and China will plump for wind and solar, instead of coal-fired power. Well, that’s the line being run by renewable energy rent seekers and wind and solar zealots around the globe.It is, of course, complete bunkum.With hundreds of millions still in abject poverty, both China and India haven’t got time to muck around with expensive, part-time power. Industrialisation requires cheap and reliable power, not stuff that’s delivered in chaotic fits and spurts and, when it is, is insanely expensive, anyway.Don’t forget, we wouldn’t be talking about wind or solar ‘industries’ in the absence of massive subsidies, guaranteed Feed in Tariffs, government mandates, targets or tax credits.Australia is one of the world’s largest coal exporters, has abundant, high-quality reserves, and yet is faced with suicidal energy policies, which demonizes reliable and affordable coal-fired power and promotes chaotically intermittent wind and solar, with a raft of subsidies doled out under the Federal government Renewable Energy TargetThe RET will cost power consumers more than $60,000,000,000 over the life of the scheme.Where Australia’s political leadership seems hell-bent on destroying our economic competitiveness, both China and India have directed their efforts and resources at building phenomenal coal-fired power generation capacity.Whatever lipservice might be paid by China’s wolf warriors and Indian diplomats in international forums about ditching coal-fired power plants, the reality is that both countries are building coal-fired power plants, hand over fist. And have absolutely no intention of slowing down that process.In the first piece Andrew Bolt interviews energy market economist, Alan Moran, who, quite rightly, remains dumbfounded at Australia’s suicidal energy policies.In the second, Bloomberg Green – a propaganda outlet for the climate industrial complex and renewable energy rent seekers – is simply dumbfounded by the fact that coal-fired power accounts for over 65% of India’s energy needs and that India is all set to expand that proportion by placing its coalmines in the hands of private entrepreneurs – with a view to improving productivity and output.Steps which sound like a country that needs more reliable and affordable power, not less; and one which is unlikely to chase the wind and solar pipe dream being peddled by the likes of Bloomberg Green.‘Going broke by being woke’: Not embracing coal ‘undermines our economic superiority’Sky NewsAndrew Bolt and Alan Moran30 March 2021Energy economist Alan Moran says Australia is “going broke by being woke” for not “embracing” coal as the cheapest form of electricity – unlike China, we are negating any chance of once again becoming an “economic superpower”.“We are being forced to reduce our competitiveness … at a time when China is becoming more and more affluent as a result of its uses of coal or the cheapest forms of electricity – and we are going broke by being woke,” he told Sky News host Andrew Bolt.“The cheapest power for most countries is coal.“We have the best coal in the world – the cheapest in the world. We should have the lowest cost of electricity in the world – we did until recently – but we have basically undermined this through our domestic policies.“Basically, coal is the cheapest form of electricity we have and we can be again an economic superpower – but only if we embrace this.”TranscriptAndrew Bolt: Joining me is Alan Moran of Regulation Economics, which looks at the economics of green energy. Alan here we are in the West, we’re cutting our coal-fired power stations, China ramping it up. It’s preaching global warming. We’re doing… We’re making ourselves weaker. They’re making themselves stronger. Is it a game to them?Alan Moran: Well it’s not a game. They’ve got a colossal amount of coal. I mean seven times the amount of coal that we produce is produced in China and they unabashedly use that to produce power cheaply. Indeed, if you look at the cost of electricity, then they’re basically coal generated as ours is. But in their case, the cost of electricity is less than half our cost. They have a lot… They do have some wind, less than half, as much as we have per capita, much less than half as much, but they basically use this low cost energy to be the backbone of their booming economy.And we’ve benefited from this, of course, as 35% of our exports are to China and they dominate our steel and our iron ore. But we benefited from it, but its made us part of their, I guess, part of their economy, really. We were a junior partner to China and it’s very difficult to see how we get out of this or whether we should get out of it. There aren’t any alternative markets for us. And yet we are now wedded, as you say to, in a dangerous situation in the world to a power which is partly democratic-Andrew Bolt: Look it’s not just the fact that we are sending our coal to help make them richer and stronger. My point is with global warming, they pay lip service to the theory, they’ve been allowed under the Paris Agreement, they can increase their emissions to double. They’re saying, yes, get on board the global warming thing, which means we de-industrialise. We get weaker. We get less rich.Alan Moran: Exactly so.Andrew Bolt: They meanwhile exploit coal and get more rich. This is a game.Alan Moran: They make a statement that, oh, by 2060 or something like that-Andrew Bolt: 2060!Alan Moran: They’re going to be carbon neutral or something like it. Meanwhile, we are actually acting in terms of reducing the efficiency of our energy by implementing more and more wind and solar at the behest of the United States. And this is one reason why it’s a dangerous world because we are being forced to reduce our competitiveness. Maybe we want to do it anyway. There are people in Australia like Mr Turnbull who do want to do that anyway, but we’re being forced to do it at a time when China is becoming more and more affluent as a result of its usage of coal, the cheapest form of electricity. And we are going broke by being woke if you like-Andrew Bolt: Well, China, I don’t actually believe that China believes in this global warming stuff, right? They’ve had a lot of scientists say, “Hey, listen, this is not a real issue.” I just think they’re just playing the West though. They think oh the West is stupid enough to de-industrialise while we get richer. Fine. There’s one other thing in this Alan, we’ve had the greens push this idea that coal is dead, right? Coal is dead. If you build a new coal fired power station or a mine, it’s a stranded asset. The world’s moving. China’s proving this completely wrong. Isn’t it?Alan Moran: Oh, yes. They’re building lots and lots of new power stations all the time. As are the other developing countries like Vietnam and Indonesia, India, of course, too. People recognise that they’ve got to have cheap power. And the cheapest power for most countries is coal. It’s certainly the cheapest. We have the best coal in the world, the cheapest in the world. We should have the lowest cost of electricity in the world, we did until recently. But we basically undermine this through our domestic policies and they’re paying lip service, more than paying lip service, they’re actuated by a general consensus if you like that, that the Flannerys in this world have told us that coal is the thing of the past. That it’s dearer anyway, but we have to subsidise renewables just to get them over this hump. It’s all rubbish. Basically coal is the cheapest form of electricity that we have. And we can be an economic superpower, again, but only if we embrace this.Andrew Bolt: Honestly, we are such fools and China is exploiting our weaknesses. This is a dictatorship. This is the world’s biggest emitter by far. This is the world’s biggest user of coal-fired power, bigger than the rest of the world combined. And they’re preaching to us about global warming. So would I, if you had an idiot at the other end, that was meanwhile buying Chinese built wind turbines.Alan Moran: Exactly.Andrew Bolt: Oh my God. Just to make our idiocy even more… Oh gosh. Alan Moran. Thank you so much indeed for your time.Alan Moran: You’re welcome.Sky NewsIndia to Double Down on Coal Projects Amid Climate WarningsBloomberg GreenRajesh Kumar Singh26 March 2021India has set in motion the biggest ever auction of coal mines in the country despite the fossil fuel’s key role in contributing to global warming.The country will put 67 mines on the block, the most in a single auction. Winners will be allowed to produce and sell the fuel, a reform meant to dislodge state monopoly over the domestic coal market and open it up to private firms. The deadline for submitting technical bids is May 27 and electronic auctions have been scheduled from June 28 to July 28, the coal ministry said on Thursday.The auction sends mixed signals at a time when the world’s third-biggest emitter of greenhouse gases needs to shed its dependence on coal. India is under growing pressure to improve its climate commitments, which have forced government officials to debate a possible net-zero emissions target. The country is one of the most vulnerable to climate impacts, and coal mining and burning also contributes to deadly air pollution.To be sure, the country has set aggressive goals to expand its renewable power portfolio, but coal still accounts for around 65% of its electricity generation.“India can’t just stop using coal overnight, it will take a decade or two to do that,” according to Tim Buckley, director of energy finance studies for Australia and South Asia at the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis, or IEEFA. “It’s still a necessary evil for the country for the medium term.”King CoalFossil fuel remains India’s biggest source of electricityThe government also sees private coal mining as a way to create jobs in an economy devastated by the pandemic. Mining projects will bring in new investments and boost socio-economic development in mining regions, according to the ministry’s statement.“In this tranche of auction special emphasis has been given on protection of the environment,” the coal ministry’s statement said Thursday. “Coal blocks have been selected in those areas where forest cover is low, coal quality is good, mines are close to the infrastructure facilities and resettlement and rehabilitation has to be done at the minimum.”The government began liberalization of the coal market last year. But after opposition from some states and a lack of investor interest, it whittled down the list of mines to be auctioned from 41 to 19. As the government prepared for the bids then, United Nations’ Secretary-General Antonio Guterres cautioned against investments in fossil fuels, calling such projects “a human disaster and bad economics.”Bloomberg GreenClimate Warriors Furious Over India & China’s Insatiable Thirst for Coal-Fired PowerClimate change: China's forest carbon uptake 'underestimated'By Jonathan AmosBBC Science CorrespondentPublished28 October 2020"Achieving China's net-zero target by 2060, recently announced by the Chinese President Xi Jinping, will involve a massive change in energy production and also the growth of sustainable land carbon sinks," said co-author Prof Yi Liu at the Institute of Atmospheric Physics (IAP), Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing, China."The afforestation activities described in [our Nature] paper will play a role in achieving that target," he told BBC News.China's increasing leafiness has been evident for some time. Billions of trees have been planted in recent decades, to tackle desertification and soil loss, and to establish vibrant timber and paper industries.The new study refines estimates for how much CO2 all these extra trees could be taking up as they grow.IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGESimage captionChina is engaged in large programmes to conserve and expand its forestsThe latest analysis examined a host of data sources. These comprised forestry records, satellite remote-sensing measurements of vegetation greenness, soil water availability; and observations of CO2, again made from space but also from direct sampling of the air at ground level."China is one of the major global emitters of CO2 but how much is absorbed by its forests is very uncertain," said the IAP scientist Jing Wang, the report's lead author."Working with CO2 data collected by the Chinese Meteorological Administration we have been able to locate and quantify how much CO2 is absorbed by Chinese forests."https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47210849https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-53613336The two previously under-appreciated carbon sink areas are centred on China's southwest, in Yunnan, Guizhou and Guangxi provinces; and its northeast, particularly Heilongjiang and Jilin provinces.The land biosphere over southwest China, by far the largest single region of uptake, represents a sink of about -0.35 petagrams per year, representing 31.5% of the Chinese land carbon sink.A petagram is a billion tonnes.The land biosphere over northeast China, the researchers say, is seasonal, so it takes up carbon during the growing season but emits carbon otherwise. Its net annual balance is roughly -0.05 petagrams per year, representing about 4.5% of the Chinese land carbon sink.To put these numbers in context, the group adds, China was emitting 2.67 petagrams of carbon as a consequence of fossil fuel use in 2017.Prof Paul Palmer, a co-author from Edinburgh University, UK, said the size of the forest sinks might surprise people but pointed to the very good agreement between space and in situ measurements as reason to have confidence in the analysis."Bold scientific statements must be supported by massive amounts of evidence and this is what we have done in this study," the NERC National Centre of Earth Observation scientist told BBC News."We have collected together a range of ground-based and satellite data-driven evidence to form a consistent and robust narrative about the Chinese carbon cycle."IMAGE COPYRIGHTESAimage captionArtwork: The Biomass satellite is one of several new mission to refine understanding of Earth carbon budgetsProf Shaun Quegan from Sheffield University, UK, studies Earth's carbon balance but was not involved in this research.He said the extent of the northeast sink was not a surprise to him, but the southwest one was. But he cautioned that new forests' ability to draw down carbon declines with time as the growth rate declines and the systems move towards a more steady state."This paper clearly illustrates how multiple sources of evidence from space data can increase our confidence in carbon flux estimates based on sparse ground data," he said."This augurs well for the use of the new generation of space sensors to aid nations' efforts to meet their commitments under the Paris Agreement."Prof Quegan is the lead scientist on Europe's upcoming Biomass mission (UK wins satellite contract to 'weigh' Earth's forests), a radar spacecraft that will essentially weigh forests from orbit. It will be able to tell where exactly the carbon is being stored, be it in tree trunks, in the soil or somewhere else.Another future satellite project of note in this context is the planned EU Sentinel mission (currently codenamed CO2M) (European Sentinel satellites to map global CO2 emissions) to measure CO2 in the atmosphere at very high resolution.Richard Black is director of the Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit (ECIU), a non-profit think-tank working on climate change and energy issues.He commented: "With China setting out its ambition for net zero, it's obviously crucial to know the size of the national carbon sink, so this is an important study."However, although the forest sink is bigger than thought, no-one should mistake this as constituting a 'free pass' way to reach net zero. For one thing, carbon absorption will be needed to compensate for ongoing emissions of all greenhouse gases, not just CO2; for another, the carbon balance of China's forests may be compromised by climate change impacts, as we're seeing now in places such as California, Australia and Russia."Climate change: China's forest carbon uptake 'underestimated'