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EDIT: This just in. Does your question by any chance have any relation to this liaison officeUC Berkeley - TUM: Practical Research Experience Program at the Technical University of Munich (graduates and undergraduates)This is unlikely to be what you think it is. Suffice it to say, this liaison office appears to be with a school of theology / religious philosophy. To see what’s up, I looked for a simpler version even an Austrian can understand. There we goThe UC Berkeley ProgramThey’ve restarted the Marshall plan?!? Interesting funding source. This appears to have grown out of a more familiar scheme in which pygmies were milked for matching funding in exchange for shiny beads of privileged research cooperation. This new one has an apparently reverse direction of funds flow, from US to Europe. Otherwise more of the same. When (and if) Berkeley undergrads are interested in joining a research project, they are welcome to do so where they are. There is not really any rational reason I can see to relocate an event in which a student makes a early-stage commitment to an academic career overseas. Normally, you’d want to start sucking up to a specific professor who you’d expect to give you a glowing recommendation for grad school in exchange for your slave labor. It better be somebody way important and with cronies everywhere. I don’t see trading a Berkeley research group affiliation for a TUM one as a good deal for this purpose, but if there is such a deal, why not transfer altogether, maybe saving a few cents to your parents? Last I checked, the non-CA-resident tuition (applicable to US Americans from other states same as foreigners) appears astronomical $36,000 a year these days. A scholarship offered by TUM to compensate is 1,500 EUR for 3 months (semester?) This is not even remotely making up the differential, so they are looking at someone who doesn’t pay a cent to UC, like Regent’s Scholarship Recipients? Other kind of people with perfect grades everybody else also wants most? As far as graduate students are concerned, they do not exchange, period. This is because they are already admitted to a specific professor’s attentions. That guy vouches for them and will most likely become their future dissertation advisor. No general Offices of Admissions or Overseas Exchanges have any say about your enrollment status anymore.————————————————————————————————————————I much recommend UC Berkeley if you really have that choice. Do you? Why just those two? Probably what you really wanted to ask is more general comparison between US and German educational systems?I once moved from TU Vienna (which I hated) to UC Berkeley (which I loved and graduated from) myself once. I see that this TUM place shows up much higher in various international university rankings that various other TUs, but this result I find somewhat dubious. In my experience, are all European universities more similar than different. That is, you can expect all the German (and Austrian) colleges to have about the same funding per student, same size class, to be accepting everyone applying and be about equally non-selective towards professors they hire. It will be fairly easy to get in and cost you very little or peanuts compared to Berkeley. You will be entirely on your own trying to learn anything. They are unlikely to try very hard to teach.However unlikely that any German TU sucks as much as the worse cases of US universities possible, it is even less likely any are remotely as excellent as the better US ones, of which Berkeley is clearly one. Call it “adequate” education? If there is any European university at all doing significantly better (or worse) than all the others, than does it likely have historical reasons or is related to some cohesive research group settling there for reasons unrelated to the rest of organization. An example of the first would be something like Oxford and Cambridge. Even though regular public British universities now, do they consistently outrank all the others there. This means they get only token additional funds from the UK government and pay their professors similar money as everybody else, so all the additional cachet the two afford is driven by reputation only. The second situation (an especially elite research group hiding among regular ones) actually happens more often, but is of rather low relevance to aspiring undergrads. Look for those when you get to postdoc level, maybe?Will universities accepting everyone, more or less and also offering same salaries to anyone teaching, it is unusual for Europeans to go far outside of the region they grew up in to either study or work in academia. Because why bother, with education being the same everywhere. Same here. You can expect that near everybody at TUM is a local Bavarian, with not that many people coming from as much as other parts of Germany. Because there, they’ve got very similar TUs of their own.Now, finer US universities are something else. Did you know that they are some of the oldest incorporated entities in the country? There is a famous story about there only one company that is in the current Dow and one 100 years ago, US Steel. So, an average expected age of a for-profit US company is not dissimilar to its human founders. But that excludes the non-profits. And by non-profit, they don’t mean non-revenuer/ApplyingToCollege - Endowment of top colleges compared to GDP of countriesYou will not find Berkeley on top of this list, which just means that those schools are unlikely to have any struggling department at all, no matter how abstract and irrelevant their field of studies is believed to be.In Berkeley, which strangely does not really have any single department not in global Top 10 or even Top 5, you will see that there are obvious haves and have nots. I had a good fortune to study at a tremendously rich place. This oneSoda Hall, the home of Berkeley’s computer science department. Several professors became billionaires without ever leaving this building :) You may have heard about something called RAID (Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks) for example. For those of you who somehow haven’t yet, it is a seminal peace of research that clearly proved that you need to buy a lot more hard-drives than just one :)Does this mean they are into practical engineering things there? Not necessarily. The building for example, was entirely designed by a resident professor of computer graphics, Carlo Sequin, not a proper architect. As you can see, he did manage not too badly for a first-timer, give or take a few practical considerations. For example, a very elaborate access control system he envisioned was broken, due to construction workers initially building the fancy doors inside-out, such that they let anybody in, but only let some out.Wouldn’t you suspect that a name like thatwould inspire a few homeless people to come by and inquire if there are any empty cans there? And come they did, but could not leave. Cops were called to collect the homeless. And collect them they did, but also a few professors. (of course they collected people who only LOOKED like they were homeless and/or smelled funny) One fellow, a visiting professor from South Africa, got roughed up (apparently, he was not really on drugs. It is normal for South Africans to cuss that much at cops) Fortunately, he was a white South African, so no biggie.It took a couple of months to invert the doors into positions envisioned by the great architect, but access control system inside is still hopelessly broken. Long story, having something to do with the building having no clearly defined ground floor for the purposes of California DOT registration of the elevators. Standing on a steep hill like it does, three doors that lead inside are all actually on three different levels. So, the elevators can be hacked. There is another professor who likes to hold his office hours at 4 am, so as a student you have to be either be affiliated with a research group or know how to hack the elevator to take you to professor’s office floor in the middle of the night :)Did I mentioned that Carlo is also a distinguished artist?sculptures by SequinSoda’s second most important design criteria is displaying Carlo’s mathematical art pieces properly. Primary goal of course being refrigeration for all the computers inside. They do get all the hardware for free from friendly Silicon Valley companies, as much as they can fit.Undergraduate students were not that high on Carlos’s priority list. Pretty much, bottom :) He envisioned a little room with a couple of workstations with a separate entrance, where undergrads who are late with their projects may collaborate with their partners. Today, the level -2 alone has 70 workstations for that purpose and the little room is an office of the student group XCF.This, BTW, is our official department of architecture, called Wurster HallDoesn’t it look like an economically priced office-block from not-too-posh part of town? See, it would be just that, if it weren’t ancient. Apparently, they tried to build a structure entirely free from influence of any particular architectural fashion, but what came out is believed to be an early example of American Brutalism, or some such.The department encourages students to modify the building and cover it with graffiti, but preferably real murals (quick search found no suitable picture)And this is not even the most Brutalist building on campus. That title probably goes to one Evans Hall, where they keep mathematical sciences. It is basically a concrete cube. An aspiring young mathematician named Ted Kaczynski once had an office there. Later on, a famous US “domestic terrorist” nicknamed Unabomber bombed the place like trice, more than any other. I cannot believe this was not the hint they used to catch the guy!You can expect the rest of Berkeley to be also in some way nuts, architecturally or otherwise. Here is a cover image from album Dookie which I used to listen to a lot. It depicts Berkeley’s main street Telegraph Avenue if you look carefully. Green Day used to be our college bandIn general, you can expect quite a few of greater US universities to have developed quite peculiar personalities of their own. No boilerplate articles of incorporation (in Delaware) here. This, for example, is the primary competition of ours across the bay, the computer science department of Stanford’sThey couldn’t stand us getting a new building and got themselves one trice the size and twice the price. Its called “William G. Gates, III Hall” Ahahahaha. Serves them right. Come to think of that, why is our building called Soda Hall? But of course, the department found someone actually called Soda who gave them $30 Mil. It is customary to name buildings after the largest donor. Stanford’s building also got gold chandeliers and real marble inside. Chandeliers are OK, I suppose, but the marble is way too slippery :) Typical Stanford. You sure you are not interested in applying? We very often find ourselves occupying adjacent positions near the top of various academic rankings, also in disciplines other than CS, but the two places could not have been more different and you would not know till you come and see for yourself. More often than not, do fancy universities give guided tours to prospective students and their parents, whom they usually tell how much they want no money from them :)Seriously, do visit all schools you are applying to. More Stanford. Those are original Rodin statuesSometimes you meet more of those than actual people there. “The Farm” has got the world’s largest campus, but nowhere near the largest number of students. Expect to drive everywhere. They also keep all the facilities unlocked. Very polite security guards tend to appear out of nowhere, but Berkeley student ID for example is enough to get them go away. Strangely, it is than working a lot better than it does at home at Berkeley :)It gets a lot more extreme if you are not alone and wear California blue-and-gold. There is a general tradition when the two universities play American football against each other. It is called nothing less than Big Game and the student are supposed to beat each other up. If you come from Stanford wearing appropriate Standford Cardinal (which is, presumably, an even more annoyingly bright red than Harvard’s official Crimson) it is tremendously easy to pick up a fight in Berkeley. They also always succeed in painting something called “The Big C” into their color. We are supposed to be guarding it, but it is somewhere up in the hills and nobody even knows where it is. The opposite is not true. A group of Berkeley students wearing corporate colors creates a rather large vacuum in already sparse Stanford landscape, even if it is off-season for the Big Game, with local nerds making it for the for bushes. Just in case it is about some other collegiate athletic competition maybe? I think Stanford is slightly in the lead on the Big game, either of us has not much fighting chance for the primacy in the PAC10 collegiate league against much larger schools like our junior affiliate UCLA. Us competing against Stanford at other sports is bloody unlikely. For some reason they insist on being best at various sports that no other college worries about all that much, probably because nobody knows how to profitable pimp them to alumni. This results in good portion of US Olympic teams in more obscure sports to be built around Stanford collegiate ones. That satisfies the Olympic requirement of them being non-professional athletes. Michael Phelps is one such non-pro for example. What does a guy like that study?Phelps Hired as Applied Sports ScientistI think it means the sport medicines are applied on him and he is a professional guinea pig in the scheme, studied by various US Special Forces as on to how can they breed more mutants like him. I bet you they made up this major just for Mike. Things like that is what makes Stanford likely by far the richest school at all, even though they are not by endowment. Oh well, our mascot always beats up theirs in traditional fight before the Big Game, no matter how buff a student they hire to wear that suit. Theirs is a Tree and ours is Oski, the California Golden Bear. The Tree suit doesn’t bend. Apparently, an ongoing policy squabble for one “Leland Stanford Jr University” governance bodies is to introduce a more aggressive animal for their mascot. With a stupid name like their full name and motto in German the tree (a California Redwood) is probably the least of their image issues, so they let it bePersonally, I actually do think this is one of the more graceful college seals out there if you don’t try to read anything. And the motto they should’ve have just made to read “Palo Alto”, meaning something like “Tall stick” in Spanish. Incidentally, this is why the town of Palo Alto is called that way and also what’s on the seal. Local lore says it there used to be a lonely giant Redwood or maybe Sequoia growing there. If you are ever in NorCal , do visit the Sequoia National. You’ll feel what a hamster might feel next to regular-sized spruce. I guarantee a spiritual experience :)So, Stanford just needs to embrace the penile symbolism of it all. As far as Berkeley is concerned, we actually are one of the few schools with a stylish motto out there. FIAT LUX (Let there be light). Like that, in all caps. The Luciferian nature of the whole thing is quite fitting to Berkeley’s wicked image, me thinks.The only other US school that scores as high or even higher is the old Harvard. Theirs has just one word, Veritas (Truth) Needless to say, I am a believer in keeping it short and in Latin.Quidquid Latine dictum sit altum videturActually found just one more school getting it right in RussiaMoscow Institute of Physics and Technology - WikipediaTheirs is Sapere aude (dare to know) Very strange for something best described as a kind of Russian twin of Caltech’s (generally, a total nerd zoo you don’t ever expect to do anything stylish) It is also not really customary to have school mottoes in anything other than in Russian.Actually, does anybody know of more good ones? It does not have to be in Latin, but I only know of those three that don’t suck pretty much. Neither do the schools that have them!And this is my nomination for worse one, belonging to YaleIts got both Lux and Veritas and more of everything, I suppose. The Latin motto was likely retrofitted much later, because nobody could understand the original in Hebrew. Why Hebrew? Not at all clear. The eponymous founder was supposedly from Wales. Is Elihu inElihu Yale - Wikipediaa Hebrew name? The guy obviously could not have been Jewish, but a pretentious schmuck all right. I figure they are trying to suggest they are the resident Judeo-Masonic cabal of the Ivies and/or have the largest pile of dough? Aren’t they all cabal? If you check the stash, you find out that that Yale’s pile of dough is second to none, except Harvard’s again, of course. Also does Harvard admits more Jewish aspirants. I see Yale law for example having 27% Jewish students and Harvard’s 28%. But than, does Harvard also have a top-rated dental school! You get the idea. I am also not sure they got them all. For every Zuckerberg (obvious) there is one Dell (not so much, but was some kind of (Zucker)Thal) What the two got in common? Well, before those two became computer industry billionaires at very tender ages, they grew up in a dentist’s family :) According to various affirmative action formulas used to improve some “diversity” of the student body, you are going to get most demerits if you are Jewish (or Chinese), making it more of a negatory action (sp?) for you than. Makes every sense to say you are some other ethnicity if you can. Pisses me off, because USA used to sanction Soviet Union for supposedly discriminating against Jews, also in college admission. Turns out, they were doing the same thing all this time and it is getting worse.When I was applying to Berkeley, I checked “brain damage” on some medical form. I was mostly trying to be funny, I guess. Some time after there was a fat letter in my mail describing a special admissions process for disabled people. I am so glad I did not actually use any of it to get in. I actually did have the supporting homework, because I got knocked out pretty bad when I was about 15, but fortunately it all healed with no apparent ill effects. Russians (including Russian Jews :) traditionally have very little reservation about gaming the system in any way possible. That includes cheating on exams, admission forms and plagiarizing work. I was taken aback how large a taboo even as much as copying somebody else’s homework or letting them copy yours is in US. This is bad enough that American students barely ever try anything like that. Take East Asian, like Chinese or Vietnamese and they’ll do it every time if given the chance. Or think so. Ain’t I go around spreading racial stereotypes? No, I do know exactly. BecausePlagiarism Detection(this thing is not that hard to dupe, if you understand how it works, but it is unlikely to be the case for college freshman aspiring to major in CS) And yours truly eventually became good enough to become a “teaching assistant” (what the man calls undergrads hired to do GSIs job (with wages appropriately reduced, of course :))So, I have tremendous difficulties understanding how the same people (the Yankees) who won’t as much as copy somebody else’s homework, will not think twice about using their ethnicity or gender to take somebody else’s university place? Can somebody explain? It does not help that Yankees in general tend to lack the skill of self-reflection. I grew up a godless commie in USSR, but I think I was ready to pray to the Lord that I never used the special disabled application trick when I made an acquaintance of one graduate student in physics who had the same condition late Stephen Hawking had, only much worse. The only thing organ that the guy could move was his tongue. He told me he studies physics to learn how to kill himself. (well, typed with his tongue) The dude spend most of his spare time ramming people on campus with his soaped-up electric wheelchair, hoping maybe that will get him whacked (The things can do considerable damage to a person, weighting maybe up to 250 kg and going up to 12 km/h (8 mph)) I was not man enough back when to help the guy, but maybe can now. If you ever meet somebody like that, do tell them they need to go to Switzerland. AFAIK, the only country that will euthanize foreign nationals right now.Basically, do know that Berkeley is a place a lot of demons are very comfortable at. Check out thisA warding sign, you think? What about thisUC National LaboratoriesIsn’t it an oxymoron, U California, yet National? Well, one of the labs in question ( Los Alamos ) is a a different state ( New Mexico ) That used to be e-e-e testing facilities. And the rest, as you may have guessed, is what remains of the Manhattan Program, originally based at Radiation Lab, 1 Cyclotron Road, Berkeley, CA.The Berkeley city government, which was always operated by godless Commies, implemented a successful blockade squeezing Fed’s nuclear research out of their original lab. Feds nothing but benefited from it though, because by the time they caught the first Russian hacker (actually a German, but hired in Berlin by the KGB) got caught breaking into LBNL’s computers in 1986, there was nothing classified there. I mean this storyThe Cuckoo's Egg - WikipediaThis required Cliff to move some fifty teletypes and printers around every night. Or thatHow a Berkeley Eccentric Beat the Russians—and Then Made Useless, Wondrous Objectsnot too useless though, as it turned out. Basically Cliff was a darling of the free press for a while, with his claims of Internet and e-commerce being nothing but fads. To which effect he wrote another bookSilicon Snake Oil - Wikipediaand declared that he’s going to demonstrate the error of everybody’s way, he is going to open an online store selling the most useless thing he can think of, that being glassware shaped as abstract mathematical objects known as Klein Bottles. Here is it still Acme Klein Bottle. It turned out to be not the useless of a glassware peace at all, with Cliff making some kind of living off this. Another unique achievement of Cliff’s is that Hollywood hired him to play himself in the movie. I suppose no actor could act nerdier.I don’t what’s gotten into the old KGB. They already got people in Berkeley, that being one of the great US Universities where Russian professors are teaching Chinese and Indian students on how to build better nukes. I’ve personally seen a quadruple agent, a Berkeley physicist with all the top level clearances with USA, Russia, China and India and that was entirely official. Now if they ever catch this guy also working for Pakistan, he’s got a problem. In another episode, there was a major security alert because a Berkeley graduate student from Russia sent a postcard with picture of him dressed as a pumpkin and sitting in B-2s cockpit to his mother in Novosibirsk. From the military postal office at Andrew’s AFB. Good thing all of his clearances turned out in order. Just your regular Halloween, than. Basically, the Feds needs those guys if they intend to test their nukes or make some new ones. If they don’t intend no such thing, then they need them still to kick the nuke’s tires in some other way and proclaim them as tentatively working or expired.Cliff, being just a system administrator, had no clearance whatsoever, BTW. Supposedly, the government wanted to give him a large medal for catching that KGB hacker, but did not. Turns out, while he was shaking hands with various intelligence bigwigs not too far from DC, he was skillfully taking samples of various rubber stamps for accesses to documents beyond “Top Secret” they had laying around on their tables. That eventually produced an essentially empty sheet of paper, that required any sufficiently special agent to simultaneously try to swallow it, shoot everybody else in the room and start nuking Russia. They were not amused, when they finally caught Cliff at it.No need to worry, dear Americans. Your national security is in most able handsThe NSA once banned Furbies as a threat to national securityThere is another aspect of Berkeley that possibly will surprise you somewhat less after you red this rant. But surprise it will nonetheless - the Byzantine bureaucracy of the scale worthy of a nation-state.For example, this is an entry point to the document of Federal government’s on how to approach smuggling some interesting nuclear toxic waste into one of their labs from RussiaAtomic Energy Act of 1954 - WikipediaIs it all? No-no-no. Did the perps have their parking permits in order? Otherwise they’ll encounter horrible wrath of city of Berkeley parking enforcers. Say you need to get one of theseEasy. You go to a different town called Copenhagen and pick up your Nobel Laureate’s in physics.Official “attribution guidelines / style guide” of UCBs suggest an attribution style to just “Berkeley” instead of “UC Berkeley” is preferable. Snobs. Supposedly it is the only public school that may do so freely, as well as engage in all kinds of dubious activities normally only the private schools do. For example admit a few fellows to play hoops for you with IQ somewhat under freezing (is in Fahrenheit, geddit) but instead of charging them anything just give everyone a free SUV. What do they study? If they can at all (no given) that usually thisMedia Studies - Letters & Science - UC BerkeleyPropaganda / per-journalism of some kind? Supposed to help VIPs dealing with card-carrying members of this trade and possibly become one of them.Than there are occupational safety hazards. I remember an incident, in which University lawyers started to send cease-and-desist letters to a Japanese graduate student in Soda in apparent violation of earthquake safety regulations. Apparently, it is illegal in California to stack uniform storage containers of any kind more than six items high. This includes empty soda cans!The solution that made them go away was attestation of soda cans as “vessels in possession of bulwark structure in dry dock with gangways trimmed appropriately” or some suchOccupational Safety and Health AdministrationI don’t remember exactly, I was personally advocating declaring it a Shinto shrine dedicated to this guy’s dead hamster, but everybody was against saying they’ll just call it evidence of unapproved experiments on animals without vet supervisions. Yeah, got to be an invertebrate to be on the safe side there…Damn, I miss the place so much…