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Joseph Larra's answer to Are Africans inferior?Africa is a huge continent so cant lump all africans together ar all. However, take a look at most of the African countries and the shitholes they clearly are. I'd say that black Africans are more primitive, violent and prone to corruption . it's 2019 and most Africans still live in grass huts and have nothing and no hope for a better life. You're gonna hear black folks here telling how advanced blacks were and how they ruled the world or some stupid shit like that. So either they regressed back to grass huts and eating bugs OR all the fantastic things blacks did are just lies and wishful thinking to make themselves feel better. They couldn't even build ships , nothing bigger than a damn canoe. Truth is truth————This is a typical case of Eurocentric ignorance and arrogance based on the Eurocentric vision of Africa centered on the peripheral creature of the forest zone [the Tarzan image] or the colonized survivor [colonial mimic men unable to build successful economies] of the slave trade.Delusional Eurocentrists like to focus on “jungle primitive people” of Africa and the developing countries of Africa as proof of African inferiority at the same want us all forget the Golden Age of the Moors, the splendor of ancient Egypt, the riches of medieval African kingdoms, the greatness of Axum etc. Eurocentrists will not talk about the fastest growing economies in Africa known as the Lions.I will only quote non-Blacks (Western scholars and people as well as Moorish historians) so as to refute your ‘ black folks telling how advanced blacks were and how they ruled the world and some stupid shit like that.Tell us all if those Western scholars are just telling lies to make Blacks feel better.John Stuart Mill - WikipediaJohn Stuart Mill (20 May 1806 – 7 May 1873),[8] usually cited as J. S. Mill, was a British philosopher, political economist, and civil servant. One of the most influential thinkers in the history of classical liberalism, he contributed widely to social theory, political theory, and political economy. Dubbed "the most influential English-speaking philosopher of the nineteenth century",[9]….J.S. Mill's (1850) "Negro Question"It is curious, withal, that the earliest known civilization was, we have the strongest reason to believe, a negro civilization. The original Egyptians are inferred, from the evidence of their sculptures, to have been a negro race: it was from negroes, therefore, that the Greeks learnt their first lessons in civilization; and to the records and traditions of these negroes did the Greek philosophers to the very end of their career resort (I do not say with much fruit) as a treasury of mysterious wisdom. But I again renounce all advantage from facts: were the whites born ever so superior in intelligence to the blacks, and competent by nature to instruct and advise them, it would not be the less monstrous to assert that they had therefore a right either to subdue them by force, or circumvent them by superior skill; to throw upon them the toils and hardships of life, reserving for themselves, under the misapplied name of work, its agreeable excitements.Nathaniel Dana Carlile Hodges - WikipediaNathaniel Dana Carlile Hodges (April 19, 1852 – November 25, 1927)[1] was an American librarian. Hodges attended Harvard University, receiving his bachelor's degree in 1874 and his master's degree in 1879.[5] Hodges served as the president of the American Library Association from 1909 to 1910.https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1763687.pdfAfrica, Its Past and Future Source: Science, Vol. 13, No. 311 (Jan. 18, 1889), pp. 42-50 Published by: American Association for the Advancement of Science Stable URL: Africa, Its Past and Future on JSTORAFRICA, ITS PAST AND FUTURE.1AFRICA, the oldest of the continents, containing the earliest remains of man, and the birthplace of European civilization, is the last to be explored. Long before the temples of India or the palaces of Nineveh were built, before the hanging garden of Babylon was planted, the pyramids of Cheops and Cephren had been constructed, the temples of Palmyra and Thebes filled with worshippers.Greece owes its civilization to Egypt: its beautiful orders of architecture came from the land of the Nile. The civilization of Egypt had grown old, and was in its decay, when Rome was born. Think what a vast abyss of time separates us from the days of Romulus and Remus! And yet the pyramids of Egypt were then older by a thousand years than all the centuries that have passed since then.….We know that Africa is capable of the very highest civilization; that it was the birthplace of all civilization. To it we are indebted for the origin of all our arts and sciences, and it possesses to-day the most wonderful works of man. I believe that Africa, whose morning was so bright, and whose night has been so dark, will yet live to see the light of another and a higher civilizationJoseph Widney - WikipediaJoseph Pomeroy Widney, M.D. D.D. LL.D (December 26, 1841 – July 4, 1938), was an American doctor, educator, historian, and religious leader.He was a founder of the Church of the Nazarene in Los Angeles, as well as a Methodist pastor. He published many books, mainly on his views about California and its history, but only Race Life of the Aryan Peoples was commercially published.He died at 96, having seen Los Angeles become a major city and seaport. One of the "most conspicuous Southern Californians of his generation",[1] Widney was a cultural leader in Los Angeles for nearly seventy years.[2]….Full text of "Race life of the Aryan peoples"Men sometimes speak of the Black races of the earth as races yet in their infancy with their race flowering still before them.But history shows instead, that they are, on the contrary, races that are retreating and retrograding. they once occupied a much wider territory and wielded a vastly greater influence upon earth than they do now.They are now found chiefly in Africa; yet traces of them are to be found through the islands of Malaysia, remnants no doubt of that more numerous black population which seems to have occupied tropical Asia before the days of the Semite and the Mongol and the Brahmanic Aryan.Back in the centuries which are scarcely historic, where history gives indeed only vague hinting, are traces of a wide-spread primitive civilization, crude, imperfect, garish, barbaric, yet ruling the world of that age from its seats of power in upon the highlands of Africa, and of a type far in advance of anything the present can show in that land. the valleys of the Ganges, the Euphrates and the Nile; and it was of the Black Races.The first Babylon seems to have been built by a Negroid race. The earliest Egyptian civilization seems to have been Negroid. It was in the days before the Semite was known in either land.The Black seems to have built up empire, such as it was, by the waters of the Ganges before Mongol or Aryan. There are evidences of such primitive empire upon the highlands of Africa, and of a type far in advance of anything the present can show in that land.Gaffarel, Paul (m)Paul Gaffarel (1843-1920) was a French historian who in his 1869 work, Rapports de l’Amérique et de l’Ancien Continent, supported an Atlantic location for Atlantis.Etude sur les rapports de l'Amérique et de l'ancien continent avant Christophe Colomb [microforme] : Gaffarel, Paul, 1843-1920 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet ArchiveCourtesy of Google TranslateSeveral races seem to have, in turn, exercised world dominance, and been at the forefront of civilization. The Black race appears to be the first. The Malays hunted down Blacks in the islands of Polynesia; the Hindus chased them far into the interior of the Deccan and Ceylon. Blacks are represented in Egyptian monuments and easily recognizable by the color of their skin, snub nose and slanted eyes. They were later replaced by invaders.[..] the final triumph of our race dates only from the 16th when native American tribes were destroyed or absorbed by EuropeansFlora Shaw, Lady Lugard - WikipediaFlora Louise Shaw, The Lady Lugard, DBE (born 19 December 1852 – 25 January 1929), was a British journalist and writer. She is credited with having coined the name "Nigeria"In 1905, Shaw wrote what remains the definitive history of Western Sudan and the modern settlement of Northern Nigeria, A Tropical Dependency: An Outline of the Ancient History of the Western Soudan, With an Account of the Modern Settlement of Northern Nigeria (London: Nisbet, 1905).Shaw was close to the three men who most epitomised empire in Africa: Rhodes, George Taubman Goldie and Sir Frederick Lugard. [9]A Tropical Dependency"When the history of Negroland comes to be written in detail, it may be found that the kingdoms lying towards the eastern end of Sudan (classical home of Ancient Ethiopians) were the home of races that inspired, rather than of races who received, the tradition of civilization associated for us with the name of ancient Egypt.For they cover on either side of the Upper Nile between the latitudes of ten degrees and seventeen degrees, territories in which are found monuments more ancient than the oldest Egyptian monuments. If this should prove to be the case and civilized world be forced to recognize in a black people the fount of its original enlightenment, it may happen that we shall have to revise entirely our view of the black races, and regard those who now exist as the decadent representatives of an almost forgotten era, rather than as the embryonic possibility of an era yet to come.""The fame of the ancient Ethiopians (ancient Kushites) was widespread in ancient history. Herodotus described them as the tallest, most beautiful and long-lived of the human races, and before Herodotus, Homer, in even more flattering language, described them as the most just of men, the favorites of the gods. The annals of all the great early nations of Asia Minor full of them. The Mosaic records allude to them frequently; but while they are described as the most powerful, the most just, and the most beautiful of the human race, they are constantly spoken of as Black, and there seems to be no other conclusion to be drawn than at that remote period of history, the leading race of the Western World was a Black race."LacusCurtius • Diodorus SiculusBook III (beginning)Diodorus of Sicily wrote the following :They say also that the Egyptians are colonists sent out by the Ethiopians, Osiris having been the leader of the colony. And the larger part of the customs of the Egyptians are, they hold, Ethiopian.According to Herodotus, in Histories, Book II, the Colchians were Egyptians “because like the Egyptians they had black skin and wooly hair.”Herodotus Book IIChapter 104[1] For it is plain to see that the Colchians are Egyptians; and what I say, I myself noted before I heard it from others. When it occurred to me, I inquired of both peoples; and the Colchians remembered the Egyptians better than the Egyptians remembered the Colchians;[2] the Egyptians said that they considered the Colchians part of Sesostris’ army. I myself guessed it, partly because they are black-skinned and woolly-haired; though that indeed counts for nothing, since other peoples are, too; but my better proof was that the Colchians and Egyptians and Ethiopians are the only nations that have from the first practised circumcision.Caucasus | region and mountains, EurasiaThe peoples of the region have exhibited an extraordinary ethnic and cultural diversity since early times: the Colchians, for example, as described in the 5th century BCE by the Greek historian Herodotus, were black-skinned Egyptians, though their true origin remains unclear.Aristotle, Greek philosopher, scientist, and tutor to Alexander the Great. Aristotle is said to have written 150 philosophical treatises.Aristotle says in Physiognomonica that “the Egyptians and Ethiopians are very black.”"Too black a hue marks the coward as witness Egyptians and Ethiopians and so does also too white a complexion as you may see from women, the complexion of courage is between the two." (Physiognomics, Vol. VI, 812a)Aristotle makes reference to the hair form of Egyptians and Ethiopians: "Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because the bodies of living creatures become distorted by heat, like logs of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations, and curliness is as it were crookedness of the hair." (Physiognomics, Book XIV, p. 317Old Paintings Prove Moors were WHITE!!!Americans are either simply stupid or their educational system has miserably failed them.I'm from Germany and all Europeans know that the real Moors were Africans. We have their artifacts, writings, depictions along with culture and engineering; we even celebrate their festivals with afros and black faces. Your version of history is totally bogus, the whole world knows the Moors are Africans not the so-called Berbers who are Arabs of today, everyone knows...but YOU! LOL! Good pun by the way.Isidore of Seville wrote “The Moors have bodies black as night, while the skin of the Gauls is white..."in The Etymologies of Isidore of Seville, translation by Steven A. Barney, published 2007. p. 386. St. Isidore also “underlines the fact that Moors are so named because they are black, and their blackness comes from the heat of the sun." St. Isidore (9.2.121-23)” (Ramey, L., Monstrous Alterity in Early Modern Travel Accounts. Esprit Createur, (48)1, pp. 81-952008).http://www.dot-domesday.me.uk/picts.htm“It is not simply in clothing but in physical appearance also that some groups of people lay claim to features peculiar to themselves as marks to distinguish them, so that we see the curls [perhaps topknot] of the Germans, the mustaches and goatees of the Goths, the tattoos of the Britons.The Jews circumcise the foreskin, the Arabs pierce their ears, the Getae with their uncovered heads are blond, the Albanians shine with their white hair.The Moors have bodies black as night, while the skin of the Gauls is white.Strabo: Geography, c. 22 A.D., XVII.iii.1-11And I have heard this man say that beyond the country which he ruled there was no habitation of men, but desert land extending to a great distance, and that beyond that there are men, not black-skinned like the Mauretani.6th A.D. – Procopius in his History of the Wars book IV contrasting the Germanic Vandals who had settled in North Africa with the Moors claimed the Vandals were not “black skinned like the Maurusioi”In Isidore’s day, Moors were black by definition…” (Staying Roman: Conquest and identity in Africa and the Mediterranean, 439-700. Jonathan Conant, 2012 Cambridge University PressTravels of Sir John MandevilleSir Jean Mandeville, wrote that: "and men of Nubia be Christian, but they be black as the Moors for great heat of the sun"When the Moors Ruled in Europe (When the Moors Ruled in Europe)Moorish advances in mathematics, astronomy, art, and agriculture helped propel the West out of the Dark Ages and into the Renaissance.Moors? What stereotypical features would you expect?Many people in the Renaissance thought that black skin was the result of infection or dirt, and that it could be passed on to children (and even sexual partners - there are Renaissance stories of women who married Moors turning black themselves) like a sexually transmitted diseaseHow the Moors described their European foes: Sa-id of Andalusia wrote the following of his White Iberian opponents:They “are nearer animals than men . . . They are by nature unthinking and their manners crude. Their bellies protrude; their color is white and their hair is long. In sharpness and delicacy of spirit and in intellectual perspicacity, they are nil. Ignorance, lack of reasoning power and boorishness are common among them.” (Kitab Tabakat al Umaxn (Blachere K. p. 36. 1935).Oxford Islamic Studies OnlineThe following passage is taken from an article that explains the term "Moor" as background to Menocal's Ornament of the World and Maalouf's Leo Africanus. The article by David Assouline is reprinted from The Oxford Encyclopedia of the Islamic World in the Oxford Islamic Studies Online.In the Latin Middle Ages, Mauri referred to a mixture of Berbers and Arabs inhabiting the coastal regions of Northwest Africa. In Spain, Portugal, and Italy, Mauri became Moros (Maures in French). More commonly, however, it was a racial designation for dark-skinned or black peoples, as in its English usage, which is seen as early as the fourteenth century.The earliest European account of the Moorish invasion of Spain, the Chronicle of 754, refers to the Visigothic capitulation, the so-called “loss of Spain” (perdida de España) at the hands of the “Arabs and Moors sent by Musa,” or Musa Ibn Nusayr, the Muslim governor of North Africa. In the Estoria de Espanna (History of Spain), the first vernacular chronicle composed in Spain, we find a characteristic portrayal: “All the Moorish soldiers were dressed with silk and black wool that had been forcibly acquired … their black faces were like pitch and the most handsome of them was as black as a cooking pan.” The extensive European historiography on the Crusades is replete with similarly derogatory portrayals. French, Italian, and English histories of the medieval Moors—and later the Turks—repeat these stereotypes and reinforce this negative imageThe following passage is taken for the best-selling book: Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong is a 1995 book by James W. Loewen, an American sociologist.Historians have chronicled the rise of racism in the West. Before the 1450s Europeans considered Africans exotic but not necessarily inferior. As more and more nations joined the slave trade, Europeans came to characterize Africans as stupid, backward, and uncivilized.Amnesia set in: Europe gradually found it convenient to forget that Moors from Africa had brought to Spain and Italy much of the learning that led to the Renaissance. Europeans had known that Timbuktu, with its renowned university and library, was a center learning.Timbuktu: History of Fabled Center of LearningTimbuktu is a city in Mali, in West Africa, that was founded 1,800 years ago. During Europe’s Middle Ages, it was home to a rich writing tradition that saw the creation of millions of manuscripts, hundreds of thousands of which survive to present day.'From here to Timbuktu'In the West, the city has become synonymous with mysterious isolation, the farthest one can travel. However, for centuries this was a major trading hub and a center for scholarship.Timbuktu - learning at the heart of Africa | IOL NewsIt was known for its gold and paper - two valuable commodities that would secure its place in history.Later it was an intellectual hub where the famed manuscripts captured prevailing thoughts of the day about a variety of topics, including medicine, mathematics, religion and astronomy.Kongo people - WikipediaDetailed and copious description about the Kongo people who lived next to the Atlantic ports of the region, as a sophisticated culture, language and infrastructure, appear in the 15th century, written by the Portuguese explorers.Later anthropological work on the Kongo of the region come from the colonial era writers, particularly the French and Belgians (Loango, Vungu, and the Niari Valley), but this too is limited and does not exhaustively cover all of the Kongo people. The evidence suggests, states Vansina, that the Kongo people were advanced in their culture and socio-political systems with multiple kingdoms well before the arrival of first Portuguese ships in the late 15th century.HistoriographyLeo Frobenius (1873-1938)Leo Frobenius, Histoire de la Civilisation AfricaineWhen they the first European navigators of the end of the Middle Ages arrived in the Gulf of Guinea and landed at Vaida, the captains were astonished to find the streets well cared for, bordered for several leagues in length by two rows of trees; for many days they passed through a country of magnificent fields, a country inhabited by men clad in brilliant costumes, the stuff of which they had woven themselves!More to the South in the Kingdom of Congo, a swarming crowd dressed in silk and velvet; great states well ordered, and even to the smallest details, powerful sovereigns, rich industries, -- civilized to the marrow of their bones. And the condition of the countries on the eastern coasts -- Mozambique, for example -- was quite the same.“The idea of the ‘barbarous Negro’ is a European invention, which has as a consequence, dominated Europe until the beginning of this century.According to James Wellard, author of Lost World of Africa, the Empire of the Garamantes not only flourished for a thousand years, but reminds us that Africans were living in cities at a time when northern Europeans were inhabiting wattle huts.European scholars/historians R.R. Palmer and Joel Colton in their book A History of the Modern World (1984) as follows:Europe, even Greece was late on the calendar of civilization."Europeans were by no means the pioneers of human civilization. Half of man's recorded history had passed before anyone in Europe could read or write. The priests of Egypt began to keep written records between 4000 and 3000 B.C., but more than two thousand years later, the poems of Homer were still being circulated in Greek city-states by word of mouth. Shortly after 3000B.C., while the Pharaohs were building the first Pyramids (in Kemet/Egypt), Europeans were creating nothing more distinguished than huge garbage heaps."