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This is taken directly from Aman’s Blog.How to gain motivation to crack JEE Advanced with a top 50 rank?Before you start working on any goal in life, it is important to be motivated. Motivation will help you to keep going. Lack of motivation is the primary reason that only a few thousands of students are able to make it, while hundreds of thousands of students appear for the exam.My personal motivation to get a top 50 rank in JEE was to get into IIT Bombay Computer Science and Engineering and make my parents proud of me. I always wanted to ‘choose’ the branch and not the other way. I wanted the rank that allows me to decide what branch I will study and in which institute. I had heard a lot about IIT Bombay Computer Science and Engineering program and I felt that being a part of it will give me the best opportunities. I was well aware that I need to be among the top 100 JEE rankers to get an admission at IIT Bombay CSE. Thus, I started my JEE preparation with the aim of getting a top 100 rank.You should decide what is your motivation• Do you want to make your parents proud?• Do you want to compete with the best students of the country?• Do you want to get your name and photograph printed in newspapers?• Do you want to shut the mouths of those relatives of yours who told your parents you were useless?• Do you want to earn a fat salary package?• Do you want to get the best career and research opportunities?• Do you want to pursue a masters in your dream Ivy League University?• Do you want to be respected in society?• Do you want to start your own big company with an excellent cofounder?Make a list of things you ever want to achieve in life. If an IIT tag will be helpful in achieving those things, then you should definitely prepare hard for JEE. You should fix in your mind that you are settling for nothing worse than a top 50 JEE rank.Aim for the stars and don’t fall on the moon. Make it to the stars!Talk to your parents. Tell them that you want to make them proud by achieving a top 50 JEE rank. Tell them that you have started this journey and you will certainly make it. Feel the hungry lion inside you – a lion who will settle only for the best meat!When I started to aim for a top 100 JEE rank, no one trusted me. Not even my parents. No one thought I can make it. I was just another normal student. I have no education in my ancestry. My parents are hardly educated and so is most of my family.It’s not about your genes, it’s about your hungerNot being born in an educated family is not an excuse to escape. By that logic, your future generations will remain uneducated forever! In fact, if your parents are not much educated, they will be really happy to see you fulfil their dream of education.Losers think of excuses; winners think of ways to winYour performance in JEE will be pretty much perpendicular to your current academic standing. You can achieve a top 50 JEE rank even if you got a 7 pointer in your high school. Indian school education focuses a lot on memorization skills. JEE is more about problem solving abilities. If you underperformed in your board exams because you were unable to remember where Bauxite is found in India, you can still get a top 50 JEE rank!My main aim is to let you knowThat you can achieve a top 50 JEE rank irrespective of your present academic statusCoaching institute v/s self-studySince you are aiming for a top 50 rank, it is important to be very systematic. A lot of top 50 JEE rankers join coaching institute because coaching institutes provide specialized study material that helps you stay on track. They also provide you ample of theory material, problem sets and test papers, which will help you evaluate your learning.Should I opt for a coaching institute?If it is possible to join a coaching institute, you should definitely go for it. Even if your coaching teacher is horrible, he/she will surely be able to provide you some theory material, problem sets and most importantly, a timeline for syllabus completion. Having a timeline in front of your eyes helps a lot. It ensures that you are always geared up and you don’t stop moving.For various reasons, it may not be possible for you to join a coaching institute. Are you at a loss? Should you forget your dream of top 50 JEE rank?A big NO!You can still score a top 50 JEE rank. You are at no loss provided you work smart. You should try to find an alternative. For instance, you should build your own timeline – cover General Organic Chemistry by the end of August this year, cover fluid mechanics by mid-April, etc. You should basically build your own calendar. If it is hard for you to build an annual calendar, don’t worry. You can go for a monthly calendar. But make sure that you aim to cover enough topics per month so that you cover the syllabus well on time.Above is attached a sample calendar that you can fill every month.It may be hard for you to decide the time you will take to cover a particular chapter. In order to do that, I would strongly suggest taking a look at JEE Advanced 2016 official syllabus. The syllabus remains almost the same every year. This is how you should try to populate your calendar:• Decide a chapter you want to focus on• Read the JEE syllabus for that chapter from the attached link• Depending on the number of topics, try to populate your calendarFor instance, consider the topic on quadratic equations.This is what JEE syllabus has to say: Quadratic equations with real coefficients, relations between roots and coefficients, formation of quadratic equations with given roots, symmetric functions of roots.Typically, each chapter might take as many as 40 hours to complete. Follow this rule:• Study theory for 10 hours• Solve easy problems for 5 hours• Solve medium problems for 10 hours• Solve hard problems for 15 hours40 hours is something that one should be able to take out in a span of 2.5 weeks. Assuming today is Monday, I will typically aim for completing:• Quadratic equations with real coefficients by Thursday• Relations between roots and coefficients by the weekend• Formation of quadratic equations with given roots by next Thursday• Symmetric functions of roots by next weekend• Spend the remaining half week in practicing a lot of problems from different sourcesRule of thumb: spend about 40 hours per chapter and about 3 days per topic in that chapterI hope you should have realized by now that not being able to join a coaching institute is not a really big problem if you are smart enough.Should I move to Kota? Why did you not go to Kota?No, you should not blindly move to Kota. I never moved to Kota because my parents felt that I was too young to stay away from home and manage things myself. They were partly right. I would have been swayed away by Kota life. I would say that it is better to not go away from home at this stage. You should consider Kota or Delhi coaching only if you have extremely poor facilities in your area (for instance, you cannot even purchase books).Since we are talking about coaching institute, I should also add that if you are not getting a good coaching facility, you may also consider joining a correspondence course. There are plenty of them available and I personally feel that Resonance material is the optimal one. You can also consider FIITJEE.How to gain self-confidence?You gain self-confidence by achieving more. The general cycle goes like this:• Aim for a target• Work hard and achieve it• Your self-confidence will increase (because you achieved something!)• Aim for another targetSo, the best way to improve self-confidence is to set small goals and achieve them.If you are in the top 20 of your class, try aiming for a top 10 position. Work hard. Settle for nothing worse than top 10 rank. Once you get a top 10 rank, you will feel more confident about yourself. You can then set higher goals (top 3 rank). This is how you will eventually reach the goal of a top 50 JEE rank.Always quantify your aims. ‘I will give my 100% in the next exam’ is a poorly quantified goal. ‘I will secure a top 10 rank in the next exam’ is a well quantified goal. Scientific research says that you are more likely to succeed if you quantify your goals because you clearly know what you want to achieve!Put a note on your study table that you will settle for nothing worse than a top 50 JEE rank and look at it dailyStep by step move ahead by gaining self-confidence and eventually you will definitely be able to make it.How to manage time?Time management is really important when you are aiming for something as high as a top 50 JEE rank. Students have to deal with school as well as self-study/coaching institute and if time is not managed properly, life becomes too hectic.What is the best strategy to manage time?The best strategy to manage time is to measure it. Record the amount of time you are wasting in a not so necessary activity like:• Watching television• Playing computer games• Hanging out with friends• Spending time in family functions• Spending time with relatives• Playing a sport• Spending time on your girlfriend/boyfriendIt is fine to take out some time from your schedule for personal recreation. But it is not fine to end up compromising your studies for these things. You should try to cut down distractions. The best strategy to do that is to plan your next day.Before sleeping every night, make a plan of what you will do the next day. A typical plan for me looked like this:• Study arithmetic progression theory from RD Sharma• Study p-block elements from NCERT• Solve first 15 problems of laws of motion from Irodov• Play cricket for half an hour• Play GTA for 30 minutesThis used to be a plan of what I will do the next day. I used to decide the order of these things the next day itself. For instance, if I wake up super fresh, then I would keep p-block for the morning so that I don’t end up sleeping (yeah, inorganic chemistry is slightly boring).Making a timetable generally helps. But I feel that timetables are more useful for those who have short deadlines. If you are utilizing your time properly and efficiently, and you are satisfied, then it is fine to not have a timetable. ‘Planning the next day’ is usually enough to make the day productive. However, if you feel that your productivity is too low, I would suggest making a timetable. A word of advice – if you plan to build a timetable for yourself, better stick to it. There is no point in creating a timetable and not following it.How to decide the right set of books?For a top 50 ranker, the choice of book is really important. You should study a concept from that book which explains it the best. You might end up purchasing a library of books, but then nothing comes for free. If you want a top rank, you have to study like a topper.Physics:• Concepts of Physics Volume 1 and Volume 2 – arguably the best book to get a good start• Mechanics Part 1 and 2 by DC Pandey – This book will really boost your preparation level to a top 100 ranker• Optics and Modern Physics by DC Pandey• Waves and Thermodynamics by DC Pandey• Irodov – If you are really aiming for a top 50 rank, you should definitely solve this book• Resnick Halliday – The best book for theory• New pattern JEE Physics by DC Pandey – best for problems of JEE levelChemistry:• OP Tondon Physical Chemistry – the best book for physical chemistry for JEE• RC Mukherjee – the best book for physical chemistry when it comes to problems• LG Wade – the best book for organic chemistry. You cannot get a better book for organic chemistry• JD Lee – the best book for inorganic chemistry. If you are aiming for a top 50 rank, you should definitely read this book• NCERT – obviousMathematics:• RD Sharma class 11th and class 12th – best book for starting• Arihant Coordinate Geometry – excellent problems and theory• Arihant Differential Calculus – the best book for calculus• Arihant Integral Calculus – really good problems and theory• Arihant Algebra – great theory!• TMH – best book for challenging problems• For trigonometry and Vector and 3D geometry stick to RD SharmaThese are the books I myself used besides FIITJEE study material. Most students I know who got top 50 JEE rank refer to these books. Solving these books will give you a solid understanding of theory as well as a good experience of problems. If you solve these books seriously, at the end of 2 years, you will be in a stage where you can be sure of your selection with a good rank. With a slight more push, top 50 rank won’t be too hard. I might be sounding too weird (top 50 rank won’t be too hard), but trust me, this is how I did it and this is how everyone else who gets a top 50 rank does it! You need to put this in your mind that it is not that hard to get a top 50 rank. If you keep on thinking that it is hard, you will never make it. The day you realize that you can do it, you will surely make it!How many hours do top 50 JEE rankers study?Top 50 JEE rankers study really hard. 8 hours a day is something very normal, unless you are super smart. I personally wasn’t that smart and so, I believed that the only way I could make it is by hard work. So, I used to spend a lot of time in my studies. Since I was a student of a non-attending school, I had enough time.My typical schedule looked like this:• Wake up at about 6.30 AM• Getting freshened up and breakfast by 7.00 AM• A continuous study session from 7.00 AM to 11.00 AM• Bathing and lunch break from 11.00 AM to 12.00 AM• A continuous study session from 12.00 AM to 2.00 PM• Relax a bit from 2.00 PM to 3.00 PM• Another continuous study session from 3.00 PM to 5.00 PM• Relax from 5.00 PM to 6.00 PM• Last and final session for the day from 6.00 PM to 8.00 PM• Dinner and family time till 10.00 PM• Sleep at 10.00 PMAs you can see, my total study hours were about 10, which I believe is enough. On coaching days, I had to redesign my schedule, which wasn’t too hard.If you attend school, you will have a tight schedule. I would suggest that since you are aiming for a top 50 rank, your school percentage will be irrelevant. You should try utilizing every bit of time you get in school to prepare for JEE. For instance, you can keep a list of problems that you were unable to solve. You can then use your class breaks to think about those problems. This may seem too much to do, but don’t forget that you want that top 50 rank which eventually only 50 people will be able to achieve. To be among those top 50, you have to walk that extra mile.Sometimes, you will have to spend more than 10 hours a day. I remember when JEE was about 2 months close, I used to spend over 14 hours a day in practicing problems. I used to just sit and solve problems and read theory. The schedule was simply – wake up, solve problems, sleep. Life became a bit monotonous at that time. But, the results were totally worth.How to make use of technology?Almost everyone these days owns a smartphone. If you are aiming for a top 50 JEE rank, you should definitely make use of this amazing device. An excellent strategy is to record inorganic chemistry lectures in your smartphone and play them during your free time. You can use headphones/earphones so as to not disturb people around you. This may seem to be a trivial idea, but trust me, it is magical. If you play those lectures daily, they are sure to get etched in your memory. This strategy helps a lot in avoiding memorization. It also helps you utilize your free time.If you are interested in maintaining a study timetable, you should consider downloading My Study Life android app. My Study life also has a web application and it ensures syncing your data across your devices.How important is theory?Some students tend to ignore the theory portion and they directly jump in to problems. And when they are unable to solve problems, they lose motivation. This is clearly the wrong way to do things. The right way is to read theory and side by side solve simple problems to ensure that you understood the concept. Once the entire chapter has been covered, you can move to advanced problems. But jumping to problems without knowledge of theory is the worst you can do!Note that theory is important, but at the same time you should keep in mind that you are probably not gaining much by reading the same theory from multiple books. Most books essentially contain the same theory with a few minor variations. The little knowledge you gain by reading theory from an extra book is not worth the time you will spend in reading the whole theory again. So, generally it is a better idea to stick to just 1 theory book. Usually books by foreign authors are very good when it comes to theory. For instance, Resnick Halliday has excellent theory when it comes to Physics. Initially, when I felt that I was not too strong at mechanics, I picked up Resnick Halliday and read its theory in great detail. I also ensure that I have solved all the ‘in-text’ problems. I realized that I was now more confident and I was able to reach the solution faster.How important is problem solving?What will you be doing on your JEE day? The only thing you would be tested on is your problem solving ability. No question will be of the form – ‘explain what do you understand by blah’ (unless they switch to subjective pattern). In fact, if you look at past year subjective papers, you will realize that even in subjective pattern, such questions were rare. The JEE paper is flooded with numerical problems. Eventually you will be tested on your problem solving skills. So, you need to have excellent problem solving abilities. What does that mean?• When you look at a problem, you are not freaked out• You are able to figure out the chapter from which the problem is• You are able to approach the problem logically• You are able to recollect relevant equations that will lead to the solution• You are able to solve the problems without making any silly errorProblem solving abilities aren’t built overnight. They have to be built with continuous practice. It needs a lot of patience to be good at something which is so challenging. You don’t have to be born smart to have those skills. All you need is hard work, patience and dedication.I start early, and I stay late, day after day, year after year, it took me 17 years and 114 days to become an overnight success.How are top 50 rankers different?• They are motivated and determined• They believe in themselves• They are patient learners• They rely on self-study• They are able to avoid distractions• They are able to manage time properly• They are well aware of their goal and they know they can do itMost of my friends (who are top 50 rankers) possess these qualities. I personally feel that self-confidence is the most important quality that one needs to achieve a top 50 JEE rank, or for that matter, anything in life. You really need to have faith in yourself irrespective of your past academic record.How to avoid distractions?A key quality that is present in nearly all top JEE rankers is that they are able to understand their priorities and avoid distractions. They know what is important and what is just noise. They are able to filter out distractions from their study life.The following are major causes of distraction:• Boyfriend/Girlfriend – A lot of students end up making a boyfriend/girlfriend in school, which I believe is a huge distraction. Trust me, you will have plenty of time in college to do all of this. At present, focus only on studies. Leave these things for future.• Social Networking – I wouldn’t say that you should deactivate your Facebook account. A better option is to track the amount of time you are spending on Facebook or for that matter, any other social networking site. There are hundreds of chrome extensions and Android apps available that will help you track your time spent (wasted?) on Facebook. Install one of those apps and measure the amount of time. Only then will you realize why you got less marks in your last exam even after studying for hours.• Family gatherings – Tell your parents that you are serious about the exam and you won’t be able to attend that family function. A typical family function in India means a waste of at least 2 days. Don’t forget that while you are enjoying the function, your competitors in Kota are studying hard to get ahead of you.• Television – Well known as idiot box. Do you really care about the news? You can always ask a news summary from your mother/father at the dining table. Ask yourself – will the winner of that favorite reality show of yours matter more than your JEE rank?The best way to avoid distraction is to ‘measure’ them. Always keep a track of where your time is going. This will help you realize why things are going bad.How to revise the covered syllabus?Revision I believe is as important as reading theory and practicing problems. Revision is especially important when it comes to chemistry.Physics:• Read your notes periodically. You can speedily browse through them anytime you are free. You should make sure to revise once in 2 weeks. You should really revise all of your notes periodically. You are sure to forget crucial points if you don’t revise. I used to mention important points at the top of my notebook in order to highlight them. This way, I ensured that those points are definitely covered when I am revising. I would not suggest revising theory from books. It will be too much of an overhead. However, if you feel the need to do so, go ahead.• Solve problems periodically. Since you have already solved problems and covered theory, you should be able to solve hard problems while revising. Whenever you fall short of problems, buy a new book. Remember to solve new problems. Solving same problems won’t help at all. You can also purchase specialized revision packages. FIITJEE GMP is something worth trying if you can afford it. It contains really challenging problems and since you are aiming for a top 50 rank, you should definitely solve it. I personally would recommend FIITJEE revision material for those who are aiming for a top 50 rank. Reason being that it is hard, above JEE level – that is something you want! Sometimes they go out of syllabus and sometimes they contain wrong problems. I used to ignore such problems. Make sure to stick to syllabus.Chemistry:• Chemistry needs a lot of revision. Especially inorganic chemistry. For inorganic chemistry, read NCERT daily. That will be about an hour of time, but that is generally fine. This is something every top ranker has to do to fix those inorganic equations in mind. I used to maintain my own notebook in which I had listed fancy inorganic chemistry reactions that have been asked in JEE in the past and are hard to memorize. I use to read that notebook daily. With time, all of those fancy reactions were fixed in my mind. Some students struggle with organic chemistry as well. I would suggest revising key mechanisms from LG Wade for revision of organic chemistry.• Physical chemistry generally takes minimum time to revise. There isn’t too much of theory involved. You are better off practicing a lot of problems of hard difficulty level. RC Mukherjee is the book I would recommend for this. There is no clear book for revising organic chemistry problems. Generally, past year JEE papers are good. You should solve papers from 1978 onwards and you are sure to get a lot of problems.Mathematics:• I used to maintain a bundle of A4 sheets. Each sheet contained a list of important formulae for a particular chapter. These lists were maintained over the course of time and they came very handy when I had to revise mathematics theory.• For practicing problems, TMH is the best book. It is just perfect for JEE. It contains enough problems of varying difficulty. You should solve this book cover to cover for revision.How to manage board exams?Since the JEE pattern is changing every year, it is important to score well in board exams. Generally, you will have 5-6 subjects to study. 3 of them will surely be Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics.Managing Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics:• If you have prepared well for JEE, you can sit back and relax. You will be able to breeze through the board exam questions• Make sure to learn to write. JEE aspirants are used to ‘ticking’. Understand that in board exams, they are not really concerned with the final answer. They want explanation of each and every step. Make sure to mention the formula you are using before substituting the value. Also make sure to clearly mention the theorem/result that you are applying to solve a problem.• Consider purchasing guide books for boards. You can use these books to get to know past year problems and the pattern of paperManaging other subjects:• If you have prepared well for Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics, you should be able to score above 90 in each of these 3 subjects. So, if you don’t do exceptionally well in non-science (non-sense?) subjects, it should not be a big issue. 80+ score in each subject is absolutely fine – you will end up getting above 85%, which will be more than enough to not stop you from qualifying for JEE.• Definitely purchase guide books for the other subjects. Board exams have a lot of repeated questions and you are sure to find them in the guide books. These books are meant for quick review of the subject and will save a lot of time of yours.At least in CBSE, it is really easy to score 90% marks. Make sure to solve past year papers, more than 50% paper will be from past year papers!Which test series to join?A lot of good students appear for FIITJEE and Resonance test series. So, these 2 are your best bets. FIITJEE as usual is exceptionally tough. The FIITJEE All India Test Series is way above JEE level. As a student who is aiming for a top 50 rank, you should definitely give it a try. I personally believe that my level changed from a top 100 JEE ranker to a top 50 JEE ranker while preparing for AITS. I took FIITJEE AITS seriously and I started preparing harder to perform better in AITS. I knew very well that AITS is tougher than JEE level. But then I thought that it would be a good opportunity to raise my level significantly and it indeed helped!Scoring top 50 ranks consistently in FIITJEE’s AITS boosted my confidence. Seeing those 99.9 percentile scores made me confident that I can perform similarly in JEE as well.An important point that most students miss out is the analysis of test paper. Most students simply appear for a test, get marks and are done. I believe that analyzing your mistake and ensuring that they do not happen again is more important. You should definitely go home and see what went wrong, what were you able to solve and what you weren’t. This will help you uncover your weaknesses, which is important. As a top rank aspirant, you should be well aware of your strengths and weaknesses so that you can tackle the paper accordingly.What is the best paper solving strategy?A good examination temperament and paper solving strategy are crucial to your success on the examination day.Examination temperament:• Stay calm. If you have prepared hard, you will definitely be rewarded. Don’t expect a particular paper pattern else you are sure to be surprised. Don’t think about your friend who seems to be too smart. Don’t think about anyone else. Just think about yourself – the hard work that you have put in during all those years. If you won’t get paid, who else will be paid? Don’t overthink. If paper is hard, it will be for everyone. If it is easy, again, it will be the same for everyone else. Your primary focus should be on giving your 100%.Paper solving strategy: it varies a lot from person to person.• I was strong at Physics and so, I always used to start with Physics because I knew that I would be able to handle it even if the paper was tough. At the same time, I knew that I might have to switch to some other subject in case Physics portion is exceptionally tough. It is generally a good practice to start off with the subject with which you are most comfortable. This is because at the beginning of the paper, you are fresh and not exhausted and you can always give your best in your favorite subject.• The second subject generally used to be Chemistry. Chemistry generally takes lesser time as compared to Physics and Mathematics. Solving chemistry as the second subject gives you a confidence that you have 2 subjects done and you have enough time for the third subject. I think it is more of human psychology. I would have been freaked out if I spend 45 minutes in Physics, 1 hour in Mathematics and then I am left with 1 hours and 15 minutes for chemistry. Why? Because my mind will say that I have a whole subject remaining and just 1.15 hours remaining. Also, it often happens that I have some problems in Physics that I have marked as ‘to be done later’ because those problems may need rigorous calculation, but are eventually doable. I think it is better to have time for those problems. Seeing 1.15 hours remaining will only scare me that I won’t get time for those problems. Again, it is pure psychology. If you can manage it well, feel free to change the order of subjects.• The third subject used to be mathematics. I used to finish Physics in 45 minutes, Chemistry in about half an hour. That mean I have 1 hour and 45 minutes for Mathematics, which is generally enough. Also, Mathematics used to take no more than 1.15 hours (normally), which means I have 30 minutes to go back to some calculative problems.I feel that the order of solving is something you should figure out yourself. What suited me might not suit you. The optimal strategy I believe is to solve your favorite subject first, followed by others.What are some gotchas?• Don’t ever get overconfident, even if you are performing way better than your batch mates• Always be ready to help your class mates. You will learn a lot by helping others• Don’t ignore NCERT textbooks, especially chemistry• Make sure to solve subjective problems in all subjects. They may not be a part of latest JEE pattern, but they will teach you a lot• Don’t ignore theory in Mathematics and Physics thinking that these subjects just involve numericals• Don’t ignore problems in Chemistry thinking that it is just theory• Don’t rely on your coaching institute for spoon feeding you. They are there to guide you, not to spoon feed you. Self-study should be your top priority. Don’t complain if your teacher is bad. Just go and study yourself. It is your career after all• Don’t use calculator while solving Physical chemistry problems. You won’t get one on JEE day• Be ready to accept your weaknesses. If you feel you are bad at something, put in efforts to be better at it than just delaying it• Don’t maintain backlogs. Sacrifice other activities to cover up pending topicsWhat are some final day tips?• Arrive at your center well before time. Keep some buffer time for any unforeseen circumstances• Carry enough water with yourself• Carry something to eat. Maybe a packet of biscuit• Sleep timely the night before the exam. Turn off mobile phones the night before the exam to avoid distractions to your sleep• Don’t overthink, don’t take too much pressure. Don’t let negative thoughts win over your years of hard work• Relax after paper 1 is over. Drink water, eat something. Avoid paper discussion with friendsFinal wordsI hope this minibook helps you fulfil your dreams. Remember, IIT JEE is a journey. Enjoy it. I hope that the pointers mentioned in this book will help you achieve a top 50 JEE rank and I would be happy to see you at IIT Bombay as my junior!Here are some motivating quotes:• The expert in anything was once a beginner• One way to keep the momentum going is to constantly have greater goals• There is no substitute for hard work• The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra• To be like sun, you need to burn like sun• You are capable or more than you knowIf you feel motivated to crack JEE with a top rank, but at the same time you feel that you were not able to utilize your past few months very efficiently, you should definitely consider reading this article.

Complete Expert Review On Application Form, Dates, Pattern & Syllabus of NEET-2017National Eligibility Cum Entrance Test, more commonly known as NEET UG is a medical entrance exam which is conducted for admission to MBBS and BDS courses across all Medical and Dental colleges in India. The Official Notification of NEET 2017 will be released in the mid of January.The exam will contain questions from the PCB stream of education at High School level. The mode for conducting exams will be Offline of 3 hours duration. The test paper would consist of a total of 18o questions.The final result for the NEET 2017 exam will be declared till the month of June 2017 after which CBSE will start conducting counseling for the seats available at colleges which are participating in NEET 2017. In the year 2017, the NEET exam will be conducted for approximately 60,000 seats in medical and dental colleges.NEET-UG exam has replaced AIPMT. As per the directives of the Supreme Court of India, NEET will the only exam conducted for admission into any medical and dental college in India from 2017 onwards. NEET exam has been introduced to bring transparency in the admission process for MBBS and BDS courses where every institutions sell themselves due to the acute demand in the Medical stream and also spare students the stress of appearing in multiple medical entrance exams.What is NEET exam?NEET is the National Eligibility Cum Entrance Test conducted by CBSE for admission to Medical and Dental Government Colleges managed by both Central and State governments as well as privately owned Universities and Institutes. The exam is conducted once every year in the month of July - August. Candidates can register online for NEET which usually commences in the month of May every year.In a rather monumental decision, Supreme court re-introduced NEET as a single tier entrance exam from this year to replace AIPMT as well as State and University level medical entrance tests for admission to MBBS and BDS program. Therefore, 15% All India Quota seats managed by DGHS, Government of India as well as remaining 85% seats distributed among all the states will be filled through NEET.Changes in NEET 2017• According to latest Govt. Notification NEET is the only medical entrance exam in the country (except AIIMS and JIPMER).• Candidates can now choose any one of the 8 languages which includes English, Hindi, Assamese, Gujarati, Tamil, Bengali, Telugu and Marathi.• Candidates registering for NEET 2017 must possess the AADHAR Card. Candidate has to fill his AADHAR Card number while filling the Application Form. Check The Notification• Candidates can now pay the Registration fees by Paytm Also________________________________________NEET 2017 Important DatesThe schedule for NEET 2017 will be out in December 2016 and there will be a one-month window to fill the application form. The table below elucidates the tentative schedule for NEET exam.ü NEET 2017 Application Form available First half of January 2017ü Last Date to fill NEET 2017 Application Form Last Week of January 2017ü Receipt of Confirmation page by CBSE (without late fee) Last week of January 2017ü Last date to submit application form (with late fee) Last week of January 2017ü Receipt of Confirmation page by CBSE (with late fee) First week of February 2017ü Admit Card Release date First week of April 2017ü NEET 2017 Exam date First week of May 2017ü NEET 2017 Result Declaration First week of June 2017NEET 2017 Eligibility CriteriaBefore applying to NEET 2017, a candidate must ascertain that they fulfill the eligibility criteria required for NEET 2017. A brief overview of the eligibility criteria for NEET 2017 is given below:1. Nationality: The candidate must be an Indian citizen or an Overseas Citizen of India (OCI).2. Age Limit: The candidate must be of minimum 17 years of age on December 2017. The maximum age limit for applying to NEET 2017 is 25 years for general category candidates. Reserved category candidates will have a relaxation of 5 years in maximum age limit.3. Academic Eligibility: A candidate must have either passed or appearing in the 10+2 or any equivalent examination from a recognized board of education with Physics, Chemistry, and Biology/Biotechnology as subjects of study. The candidates must also have scored a minimum of 50% marks in HSC. For reserved category (SC/ST/OBC) candidates, the minimum percentage required is 40%. Physically handicapped students from general category must have secured 45% marks.NEET 2017 RegistrationThe NEET 2017 Registration will begin in the month of January 2017. It will be an online process and there will be no offline application forms. The application form can be accessed through the official webiste of NEET. Along with the application form, CBSE will also release an information booklet which must be consulted by the student during form filling to avoid any mistake. The basic steps involved in applying to NEET 2017 exams are given below:1. Registration on the NEET 2017 official website by providing name, date of birth, email id, and phone number.2. Filling details in the application form. The candidate must enter correct details so as to avoid rejection at any stage of selection.3. Uploading images on the official website. The images required are candidate’s photograph, signature, left hand thumb impression, and self-declaration. These should be scanned and uploaded at the required stage of application process.4. The next step is payment of application fee. Application fee could be paid either in the online mode using a valid debit/credit card or in the offline mode using e-challan generated during form filling.5. The last step in the application form is to send the confirmation page generated after completion of application form to CBSE. Candidates whose confirmation page do not reach the CBSE office on time will not be issued admit crad for NEET 2017. The confirmation page should be sent to the below address:The Assisstant Secretary (NEET)Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE)Shiksha Kendra, 2, Community CenterPreet Vihar, New Delhi 110092__________________________________________________NEET 2017 Application FeeThe NEET 2017 application fee must be paid within 4 days of the registration. Claims for refund after submission of fee and application form will not be entertained under any circumstances. The table below gives the registration fee for various categories:CATEGORY WITHOUT LATE FEE & WITH LATE FEEGeneral/OBCRs. 1400Rs. 2800 (1400 + 1400)SC/ST/PHRs. 750Rs. 2150 (750 + 1400)Online Mode: Candidates can pay fee through Debit Card/Credit Card/Net Banking/Paytm as online mode.Offline Mode: Candidates can pay fee through Bank Challan________________________________________NEET 2017 Admit CardNEET 2017 Admit Card will be issued only for those applicants who complete the application process before the last date. The candidates can download and print the NEET 2017 Admit Card in the first week of April 2017. The candidates are advised to print multiple copies of the NEET 2017 Admit Card to avoid any discrepancy later.The steps to download the NEET 2017 Admit Card are as follows:• Open the official website of NEET 2017.• Click on the link to download the NEET 2017 Admit Card.• Log in using the registration number and the date of birth mentioned during the NEET 2017Application Process.• Post log in, the NEET 2017 Admit card appears on the screen.• Download the NEET 2017 Admit Card and print two-three copies of the same.________________________________________NEET 2017 Exam PatternNEET 2017 Exam is on the same pattern as its older version. Candidates must carefully check the NEET 2017 Exam Pattern so as to prepare well for the entrance test. The NEET 2017 exam will be of 3 hours duration & timings will be from 10:00 to 01:00 PM. The exam will be conducted in offline mode, that is it will be a pen-paper based test.The candidates can choose the language of the test booklet during the NEET 2017 Application Process. The candidates who choose English will be provided English question booklet during the exam whereas the candidates choosing Hindi shall receive a bilingual (both Hindi and English) Question Booklet.Update: Apart from Hindi and English, NEET can be given in many regional languages as well. Now students can choose Assamese, Bengali, Gujarati, Marathi,Telugu, Kannada and Tamil to give NEET 2017.There are 180 multiple choice questions with one correct answer to be marked by the candidate in the OMR sheet. The NEET 2017 includes 45 questions in every section based on each subject namely Physics, Chemistry and Biology (Botany and Zoology). For every correct answer 4 marks will be awarded and for every incorrect answer 1 mark will be deducted.________________________________________NEET 2017 Syllabus• NEET Syllabus will be from 4 subjects; Physics, Chemistry, Botany and Zoology• Questions will come from all the above mentioned subjects• NEET 2017 Syllabus will be from 11 and 12 class books (NCERT and CBSE)________________________________________NEET 2017 ResultNEET 2017 Result will be declared post display of the NEET 2017 Answer key. The expected date for NEET 2017 result declaration is in the first week of June 2017. The candidates who qualify the minimum marks requirement are eligible to apply for NEET 2017 Counselling.The candidates are required to score the minimum marks mentioned in the table below to qualify for admissions to various Medical/Dental Colleges/Institutes/Universities or AFMC:CATEGORY QUALIFYING MARKS OUT OF TOTAL 720 MARKSGeneral50%equal to 360 marksSC/ST/OBC40%equal to 288 marksGeneral PH45%equal to 324 marksReserved PH40%equal to 288 marksAlong with the NEET result, the merit list for qualified candidates will also be released. The counselling and allotment process will be done on the basis of Merit list prepared. The inter-se-merit for candidates with same total marks are resolved by giving preference to candidates in the following order.1. Marks in Biology2. Marks in Chemistry3. Fewer incorrect answers.4. Candidate older in age.________________________________________NEET 2017 CounsellingAfter declaration of the NEET 2017 Result and NEET 2017 Cut off, the candidates will have to participate in NEET 2016 Counselling. The Counselling Procedure for NEET 2017 will be conducted by Medical Counselling Committee (MCC), Directorate General of Health Sciences after NEET 2017 ResultDeclaration :Qualified candidates can register for NEET 2017 Counselling by following the steps given below:• Online Registration: Candidates have to register themselves to participate in the NEET 2017 Counselling. Candidates have to mention the roll number, name, date of birth, mobile number etc. The candidate receives a Login ID & password on the registered mobile number & email ID. Candidates have to login with the received ID & password for the further process.• Choice Filling & Locking: Candidates are required to make a choice of their desired courses & colleges. After the selection of courses & colleges, candidates have to lock the Choices.• Seat Allotment: Seat Allotment is conducted in three rounds. Seats are alloted to a candidate on the basis of their ranks in NEET and choices filled during online registration for counselling process.________________________________________NEET 2017 Reservation CriteriaNEET 2017 Reservation, as mentioned by the MHRD ministry varies for different categories. A total of three hundred and Fifty Five Participating MBBS Colleges & Three Hundred Participating Dental colleges have been listed by MCI, which fall under the ambit of NEET 2017. These colleges shall offer a total of 43,740 MBBS seats & 24,840 Dental seats across India. The table below gives the seat reservation for the various categories for NEET 2017:________________________________________NEET 2017 Cut offThe table below explains the category wise cut-off for NEET 2016. It is expected that the cut off for NEET 2017 will bCategoryReservationScheduled Caste15%Scheduled Tribe7.5%OBC27%Physically Handicapped3%Category , Marks Range , Qualifying Criteria & No. Of CandidatesOthers685-14550th Percentile171329OBC678-11840th Percentile175226SC595-11840th Percentile47183ST599-11840th Percentile15710UR&PH474-13145th Percentile437OBC&PH510-11840th Percentile597SC&PH415-11840th Percentile143ST&PH339-11840th Percentile36________________________________________NEET 2017 Preparation TipsNEET 2017 is one of the most important exams for medical aspirants in India. It is relatively new and so a lot of candidates might be facing trouble in getting to know about the guidelines regarding the examination, counseling procedures and the seat allotment. However, they should not worry, as NEET exam will follow a pattern which would be somehow similar to the now scraped AIPMT exam. The exam will have questions from the various topics spanning Physics, Chemistry, Zoology, and Botany subjects. Below are some tips which may come in handy to those aiming for a good rank in the NEET 2017 exam.1. Follow NCERT Text Book: Since the exam is conducted by CBSE, its more likely that the topics would be asked from the NCERT textbooks prescribed in CBSE syllabus for 10+2. These books will not only help you clear all your concepts but will also give you a basic foundation of the pedagogies to be followed and the tricks to be mastered for the same.2. Take tests: Mock Tests will help you to get familiar with the examination pattern and attune your preparation for the exam day. You can also keep track and measure your performance in the tests which will help you make in winning strategies to get through the NEET exam.3. Keep taking breaks: It is always advisable to consume things in chunks. That’s why the students must study taking short breaks in between for recreational activities such as reading magazines, watching movies etc. to get the stress out of their mind and gain extra-ordinary focus on the exam.4. Daily and Weekly Study Planner: Make a daily and weekly schedule for your preparation. Following a study schedule will help you in improving your performance. It is advised not to make a static routine for studying. Rather, it must be a dynamic one and with complete analysis. They may distribute the whole day into a fraction of hours and track their activities either constructive or destructive during the day and at night, sit down with the report and optimize the performance gradually from destructive to constructive. This may boost your performance thereafter in the exam.5. Important Books for NEET 2017: Below is a curated list of books which may help you to get through the NEET 2017 Preparation:1. Physics: CBSE PMT set of 3 Volumes by P. Aggarwal2. Pradeep's Biology3. SC Verma (Part-1 and 2) ABC Chemistry4. Arihant Organic Chemistry5. MTG (Biology Today) CBSE PMT (Subscription) Dinesh Chemistry Class 116. Dinesh Class 12 Chemistry7. Trueman's Biology Volume 18. Trueman's Biology Volume 29. Truemans Objective Biology10. AC Dutta for Botany (Oxford Publication)11. HC Verma for Physics Vol 112. HC Verma for Physics Volume 213. Morrison Boyd for Organic Chemistry14. Peter Atkins and Julio de Paula for Physical Chemistry________________________________________NEET 2017 Contact DetailsIn case of any queries related to exam, results and finding possibilities of their admission in the colleges/universities of their choice, Candidates can contact undersigned for help :-Helpline Number - 8287233233

Q. Will graduating from a lower-prestige university affect my medical school admission? I currently study chemistry at California State University, Northridge.A.Choosing the best premed school to get into medical school (generic article)New medical school in Elk Grove makes history (newspaper) (CNUCOM)Can CSU students get into medical school in California? (SDN discussion thread regarding CSU success with UC admissions)Pre Med 101 - Know What You Need to Get Into Medical SchoolChoosing a Pre Med School It does not matter what pre med school you attend to get your undergraduate training. The only thing that matters is that you are in an environment that YOU can be successful in. You may think it is hard to believe that it doesn’t matter, but once you are in medical school and see the vast diversity of your classmates you will agree that it does not matter if you went to Harvard or a small liberal arts college.[Pros and Cons of Liberal Arts colleges for the premed]The simple recipe to get into medical school:Get great grades in your pre-req classesHave a solid plan for your MCAT prep and get a competitive scoreGive yourself plenty of time for extraordinary volunteeringChoosing the best premed school to get into medical schoolDo not go to a great school. Go to a school that will make YOU great. – Ryan Gray, MDThere is no perfect or wrong choice when it comes to selecting a pre med school. The biggest considerations for most high school seniors are geographic location, proximity to family, size of school, range of degree programs offered, and cost. There are, however, some other important things to think about if you are thinking about becoming applying to medical school someday. Read below to find out 5 criteria for choosing a pre med school.Type of Experience: Happy Hour vs. Study BuddyFirst, before you even think about particular pre med schools, you should know that becoming a physician is a long journey requiring a lot of work, patience, and dedication. That said, if you are thinking of spending your college years as your chance to party every weekend and booze it up, you may want to reconsider your career aspirations. There are undoubtedly some professional schools which may still accept you if you skate by with a decent GPA and entrance exam score despite frequent nights of inebriation. Medical school is not one of these. Medical schools take your college transcript GPA and MCAT scores very seriously, as well as how you spend your time in college. They require several letters of recommendation and expect a certain amount of volunteer work or research while you are in college. This does not mean that you can’t have a certain amount of fun in college – of course you can. But, you have to remember the larger picture and that college is the first step in a long journey toward obtaining your medical degree.Type of School: University vs. Liberal Arts collegeThe next big choice to make when choosing a pre med school is whether you want to attend a large university or a small liberal arts college. Can you get an adequate pre-medical education at both of these types of institutions? Yes, for the most part. Almost all big universities will have the necessary pre-med science courses as they typically will have several science departments. Lots of liberal arts colleges, on the other hand, may have a wealth of courses in literature and the humanities but only a few in the biological and physical sciences. Given that your advisor and dean’s office can play a large role in the application process to medical school, you should ensure that they have the necessary services should a student wish to apply to medical school. Remember, you can major in Chinese or Art History and still go to medical school, but you also need to make sure that you will have a good science background in preparation for your future studies in medical school as well as for your MCAT preparation.Type of Competition: Cut-throat or Laid-backSome universities will have hundreds of premed students and inevitably have a high level of competition among the students. Others will have a more laid-back vibe. Given the importance of your college transcript, make sure that you select a school which will be a good fit for you. If you are someone who thrives in high-level competition with your peers and is not bothered by long hours and putting aside your weekend plans with your friends for some extra time in the library, then a very competitive pre-med program at a top university may be for you. If, on the other hand, you are someone who gets nervous around competition and 100% final exams, you may want to select a school with a more nurturing and laid-back environment.Type of Curriculum: Easy A vs Sweatin' BulletsMedical schools will look at your science GPA, your total GPA, and the level of rigor in your curriculum. If you have a 3.99 total GPA, but if most of your courses were in rock painting, your GPA will not be taken as seriously as someone with a 3.85 GPA with courses in integrative neuroscience and analytical chemistry. Most medical school requirements include many hours of studying very involved science material, so you admissions committees are looking for applicants who have already applied themselves, and succeeded, in difficult science courses in college. All of that being said, even if you going to major in History or German and only do the required pre-med sciences, courses, you need to make sure that the rest of your courses are challenging. Also remember that because med school courses are very challenging, you want to prepare yourself well for the level of rigor that you will face in medical school by challenging yourself in your undergraduate studies. The better the study habits that you form in college, the more prepared you will be for weekend-long studying sessions in medical school. The adjustment will also be easier if you are used to studying a lot before you set foot in medical school.Type of Matriculants: In-State vs OutMed schools and the AAMC keep public statistics of where students come from. It is not always as easy as public vs private medical school. If you have any idea about what medical school you are truly interested in attending, review the data and figure out if you should try to gain in-state residence. You might be able to gain the residence by attending an undergraduate school in that state. Many schools also keep data on the exact undergraduate school that their matriculants come from, although I think this data is less important.New medical school in Elk Grove makes historyCalifornia Northstate University College of Medicine (CNUCOM)California Northstate University is the first for-profit traditional medical school accredited in the U.S.The school, with an initial class of 60 students, hopes to make a dent in the nation’s physician shortageA total of 1,232 new students enrolled in California’s 12 medical school programs last fallMedical students Jonathan Huang, left, Zain Lalani, and Tyler Ellis observe a demonstration on performing an orthopedic exam at California Northstate University College of Medicine in Elk Grove last month. These first-year medical students are attending the first for-profit medical school in the nation. Randall Benton [email protected] KATHY ROBERTSONAmie Cai, 25, took a year off after she graduated from UC Berkeley to work as a laboratory manager and apply to medical school. She didn’t get in. Anywhere.Cai, who grew up in Folsom, decided to get more experience. She “shadowed” Dr. Kenan Si at a walk-in clinic on J Street in Sacramento where she could talk to patients in Chinese.First-year medical student Tyler Ellis takes notes at California Northstate University College of Medicine in Elk Grove last month. . The school was accredited in June 2015. Randall Benton [email protected] a new medical school in Elk Grove opened for business last year, Cai jumped at the opportunity. So did 59 other students in the inaugural class at California Northstate University College of Medicine.The first for-profit traditional medical school accredited in the United States hopes to make a dent in a physician shortage and lack of medical school slots in California and nationwide.The school was accredited in June 2015, took applications over the summer and signed up a full class by its launch in early September.Students who landed a spot still pinch themselves to be sure it’s real.California Northstate’s opening comes at a time when many for-profit colleges are under fire for misleading students about their job prospects and earnings, and saddling them with high student loan debt. In the most recent case, the Federal Trade Commission sued DeVry University last month.Students at California Northstate acknowledge the risk, but say they’re glad they got in.“When I heard about this new school in my hometown of Elk Grove, I thought, ‘What the heck?’ ” said Chris Phillips. “For me, this is a dream come true.”WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS NEW SCHOOL IN MY HOMETOWN OF ELK GROVE, I THOUGHT, ‘WHAT THE HECK?’ FOR ME, THIS IS A DREAM COME TRUE.Chris Phillips, a student at California Northstate University College of Medicine in Elk GroveAt 30, Phillips is the oldest in the class. He’s married, has three children and a master’s degree. He taught high school physics and shadowed a doctor at a local pediatrics clinic before applying for medical school in 2016.“It’s an interesting group,” Susan Ely, assistant dean of student affairs, admissions and outreach, said of the student body. “It tells you immediately there are way more qualified medical students than places for them, especially in California.”More than 52,500 students applied to medical school for the 2015-16 school year, but only 20,631 enrolled, according to the American Association of Medical Colleges.A total of 1,232 new students enrolled in the 12 medical school programs in California last fall, AAMC figures show. There were more than 67,000 applications. Students typically apply to two dozen schools or more because the market is so competitive.“That’s a lot of wasted talent,” said Dr. Joseph Silva,California Northstate medical school dean.California is particularly tough because people like to attend school in the state — and practice here afterward.“It’s a risk to go to a brand-new school, but (California Northstate) is an accredited California medical school, ” said Shermilla Pia, a new student from Davis. “It’s close to home. My family is here. So is my boyfriend. I’m part of creating something – and that’s pretty huge.”The class is diverse. More than half the students are Asian. Male students outnumber females by more than two to one. Almost 80 percent of students are California residents. For now, the school is not accepting applications from foreign students.The lopsided gender mix was a surprise. Women usually equal men in enrollment or come in a little higher.“(Selection) was all done in seven weeks, in batches,” Silva said. “In the first rush, men, quite frankly, had a better record. In the second batch, fewer women were invited for interviews.”Beyond that, Silva had no explanation. This is something the school will watch, he said.Students don’t seem to care about numbers. They see themselves as pioneers.“It doesn’t feel like a rigid, set-in-stone program,” Cai said. “We are the school. We can help improve it along the way.”California Northstate is the first traditional for-profit to be accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education. The only other for-profit is a Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine in Parker, Colo. It opened in 2006.The plus of starting a school from scratch with investor funding is the ability to get the program off the ground quickly.Backers raised more than $50 million to fund the school. Now open for business, the school gets more than $3.2 million a year in tuition and fees from a class of 60 students.“Profit, nonprofit makes no difference. The school is what you make of it,” said Gopal Kodumudi, another student in the inaugural class. “The matriculation rate at the pharmacy school is great, so I have no worries.”Debt is a fact of life, students say. The $54,000 annual tab is lower than some private medical schools. In-state tuition and fees at UC Davis, the other medical school in town, are about $43,000 this year.“We’re taking out loans,” said Cai. “Anywhere you go, it’s going to be high.”The school launch was quick, but the program has been in the works for years.It’s part of a university that also includes a school of pharmacy, undergraduate college of health sciences and post-baccalaureate program to help students who want to improve their chances of getting into a medical, pharmacy or other health-related school.The medical and pharmacy schools share a campus on West Taron Drive in Elk Grove. The building used to be an AAA call center. California Northstate bought it in 2011 for $7.1 million.The model at the medical school is an integrated approach that brings basic science and clinical expertise together from the beginning. The traditional approach is two years of basic science and anatomy before two years of clinical study with patients.“We actually start with clinical study and the 120 different ways a patient presents to a physician,” said Dr. Ann Poznanski, associate dean of curriculum.Then students learn the underlying science behind the patient condition and see what it looks like in the anatomy lab.“This gives them something that actually makes sense,” Poznanski said. “Teaching in this more integrated way has more sticking power.”Students also teach each other.The focus recently was on hip, knee and joint pain. Broken into groups of four, students practiced their medical skills on actors posing as patients with a joint problem. Students took turns knocking on the door, asking questions and examining a patient. Those not on the spot scribbled notes, wondered out loud – and occasionally laughed.“It’s really cool how we can really interact with a potential patient and see how we come off as doctors, even though we are still students,” said Zain Lalani, who drew the short straw and had to go first.“This is a safe environment where they can make a mistake and can correct it,” said Dr. Ralitsa Akins, senior associate dean of medical education and accreditation. “We are developing a habit.”In one exam room, professor Hanns Haesslein kept a steady banter going as he watched each student.“We’re not just interested in the bones, for crying out loud,” he said. “What do you feel? Push it in and out.”Physical diagnosis is part of the detective work of being a doctor, said Haesslein, an obstetrician/gynecologist in private practice at the Sacramento Maternal-Fetal Medicine Medical Group. “I’m doing this because I love it. It’s a challenge because every day, there is another thing we need to work on, plan for, assess and change.”Dr. Ravinder Khaira, a local pediatrician who is medical director of four clinics in the area, is another member of the faculty at California Northstate.“It takes advantage of my advanced degree and offers a chance to form the new school,” he said. “The students? They are amazing. They are intelligent, very enthusiastic and happy they’ve been given this opportunity.”There is a looming problem for medical students here and throughout the nation, however. About 1,000 current medical school students won’t match with residency spots when they graduate this year, said Dr. Julie Freischlag, dean of the UC Davis School of Medicine.The federal government pays for most resident training, but capped the number of positions in 1997. There are more graduates, but the only new slots are funded by hospitals or other sources.“It’s good to have an increase in the number of medical schools as the nation tries to solve the problem of not enough doctors,” Freischlag said. “But we do need to find new places for them to train.”AT A GLANCECalifornia Northstate University School of Medicine’s inaugural Class of 2019:Enrollment: 60Total applicants: 686Acceptance rate: 8.8.%Female students: 19 (32%)Male students: 41 (68%)California residents: 47Out of state residents: 13Race/ethnicity: 19 Caucasian; 33 Asian; 3 African American; 3 Hispanic; 2 Pacific IslanderAverage Medical College Admission Test (MCAT) score: 32Average GPA: 3.48Source: California Northstate University School of MedicineRead more here: New medical school in Elk Grove makes historyCan CSU students get into medical school in California?DISCUSSION THREAD REGARDING CSU SUCCESS IN GETTING ADMITTED TO UC MEDICAL SCHOOLS (A BIT DATED, STILL RELEVANT)Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by missbones, May 7, 2010.missbones: Been reading some pretty disheartening comments on hsdn and elsewhere from people on adcoms or current med students in California stating that unless you apply disadvantaged, you wont get into a California med school with a CSU as your undergrad.Can anyone confirm or deny this or provide insight? I plan to speak to a counselor on campus next week. Just wanted as many viewpoints/experiences as possible. Also this thread might be helpful to other CSU students.I am a cc --> CSU transfer. Just decided to go pre-med in my senior year so I potentially have 4 more semesters ahead of me to complete all the chem prereqs. I'd like to know what my chances are and if would be smarter for me just to graduate with my BA and then try to get into an SMP or Post-bacc at a more prestigious institution in order to improve my chances for acceptance in California, instead of continuing on my current plan to just postpone graduation in order to take the required pre med classes.my gpa is around 3.56-59. I have 4 units I failed at the CC level. Am I dead in the water adding this to my CSU status?Chemokine7 I know people who went to a CSU and got into UCLA and USC but they had solid MCAT scores to back up their high gpa. If you have a high gpa at a csu and a low MCAT score, it will not reflect too well. One of my interviewers even said that he believes CSU gpas are way inflated compared to UCs. So make sure you do well in your MCAT and do not leave the adcom room to question it.mspeedwagon Status:Medical Student I know CSU kids in the CA med schools, but all had 30+ MCAT.plsfoldthx Status:Medical Student doesn't everyone in med school have 30+ mcat?Meat Status:Medical Student Check out my MDapplications link to the left. CSU student, good GPA, solid MCAT, some research, volunteering, etc. I was a bit late to the game (started doing health care activities two years before applying). I was murdered at the UC level in CA. Not one interview. Not even secondaries at UCSD or UCSF.I'm sure some will say "obviously something was wrong with your application," which may have been true, but not ONE UC invite with my numbers? I assumed there was some state hate.Good luck man! I would suggest transferring to a UC.EDIT: I do have a URM friend at my school that had a USC and UCLA interview. So its not totally impossible.missbones Status:Pre-Medical Did you apply early?Meat Status: Medical Student Submitted end of June, verified mid / late July, all secondaries in early August. Certainly could have been earlier.silverhorse84 Status:Resident CSU grad. Got into USC and was waitlisted at Irvine (never sent a letter of interest, which they highly suggest, so who knows what would have happened). Had a 3.6 something GPA, and 30 MCAT. No, I'm not URMIgnore what other people say - unless you want to go to a "top" medical school you'll be fine. Get a good GPA and a good MCAT, speak the truth in your essays and interviews, you'll be fine.Meat Status:Medical Student For sure. Do the best you can, you'll totally make it!missbones Status:Pre-Medical Thanks for the advice. I was thinking of doing the USC post bacc. I was all over that recent CSU thread, and I don't think anyone said it was impossible - just that it is much easier coming from Berkeley/UCLA/UCSD.lord_jeebus SDN Moderator Status:Attending Physician That said, with your GPA you will need a strong MCAT and maybe a post-bac.longhorn09 Status:Medical Student Have you tried Loma Linda?missbones Status:Pre-Medical the statements that you made, among what others said, that pretty much made me feel like I had no chance because I lack "near perfect GPA" and "extraordinary accomplishments":"Those very few successful applicants from the Cal State system tended to have extraordinary accomplishments outside of the classroom, near-perfect GPAs, and high MCATs""Can the CSULB student overcome this disadvantage? Of course, but most don't. It's not just a matter of scoring high on the MCAT. You would need to distinguish yourself in ways going above and beyond most pre-meds.""Again, the few CSU students that were accepted, in my adcom experience, were not accepted because they had great numbers (although they had to have that also just to be looked at) but because they had unusual life achievements."I also asked in that thread about people who attend post-baccs at CSUs and how they could have any kind of success rate if little to none of CSU med school applicants make it in, as you were saying. Since you didn't respond on that thread would you mind addressing this here if you have any experience in that area?missbones Status:Pre-Medical Loma Linda? Not interested. I'm very anti-christian.mspeedwagon Status:Medical Student I'm assuming you mean everyone that gets into a CA M.D. program... then the answer is likely yes (with a few exceptions).Of course 30 is close to the 80% percentile, which means only 20% of all test takes score at or above. So no, not "everyone" scores 30+.Side-note in response to another poster: Loma Linda is a terrible place to apply unless you are a 7th day adventist. They send you an automatic secondary (thus get your money) and then reject you (for the most part).lord_jeebus SDN Moderator Status:Attending Physician I was talking about my medical school in particular. Your odds at getting into a medical school somewhere in the US are not as bad, if your numbers improve. I think that if you improve your grades from this point, maintain 3.9+ in postbac and 30+ MCAT, you will be able to attend medical school somewhere in the country. You can't be picky though.U Turn Status:Pre-Health (Field Undecided) A high school friend of mine graduated from San Jose State last year and is currently an M1 at UCLA. She had a 3.9 GPA and a 32 MCAT from what I remember. She's not an URM but apparently adcoms at her interviews were impressed that she's a hardcore mountain climber and has climbed numerous mountains including Mt. Everest and Mt. McKinley.lord_jeebus SDN Moderator Status:Attending Physician Sounds like "extraordinary accomplishments outside of the classroom, near-perfect GPAs, and high MCAT" to me .missbones Status:Pre-Medical I already have ~110 units. So the best I can do is maintain and raise it maybe .1 in 2 years... Postbac seems like the best option for me. I really don't want to leave California.Maneuver Status: Pre-Medical CSU GPA's ARE inflated. You shouldn't have more than one or two B's. Certainly no C's, D's, or F's.MichaelRW Status:Pre-Medical plsfoldthx said: ↑doesn't everyone in med school have 30+ mcat?seriously?lord_jeebus SDN Moderator Status:Attending Physician If I were you, if prereqs are all fulfilled I would apply simultaneously to med schools and post-bacs - just in case you get in somewhere. But you'll probably need the post-bac.Even with the post-bac, your odds of staying in CA are not good. 4 years is not that long and if you work hard you should be able to come back for residency.missbones Status:Pre-Medical I'm not sure I understand this. If my pre-reqs are fulfilled why would I do a post bacc?lord_jeebus SDN Moderator Status:Attending Physician GPA boosting, especially if your GPA in the prereqs is similar to your overall GPAmissbones Status:Pre-Medical lord_jeebus said: ↑GPA boosting, especially if your GPA in the prereqs is similar to your overall GPA I guess you consider my gpa extremely bad because most other people I've talked to said it was fine/competitive. My gpa is a 3.5 ish mostly because of those 4 units I failed. I have only one other c and the rest are As, A- and a few B+'s, I think 5.JokerMD Status:Medical Student yes, its possible.amikhchi Status:Medical Student Calstate northridge grad 3.47 gpa and 36 mcat... Absolutely no love from any california schools... Congrats to those who got in from csu system, but looking back I would have gone to ucla... I'm rather confident if I had went to ucla (got accepted to all UCs for undergrad) I would be in med school right now with my 31 and wouldn't have had to retake mcat...Oh wellmissbones Status:Pre-Medical What are your ECs/volunteering/shadowing etc. Please be honest.amikhchi Status:Medical Student i've gone over this in several threads, and honestly they are avg i'd say, about 200 hrs of shadowing over the course of about 2 years, about 150 hrs of other volunteer community service, about 120 hrs of research (through my school), and an undocumented amount of hours that would probably fall under ECs, but not community service or clinical experience.missbones Status:Pre-Medical i know my gpa is on the low end, doesn't need to be stated, but my mcat is also on the higher end... anyone i talk to says it's "weird" that i get no interviews from CA schools, or that "something must be wrong with your application"... i think it's the CSU...sounds like it. I think id rather just stop taking pre-reqs, graduate, get into a uc post bacc and see how it goes from there. Its just scary because you can only get loans for those programs and most dont want you to work so what do you do after 2 years of debt if you dont get in? Get to work in the real world, I guess.Meat Status:Medical Student i think it's the CSU...Maybe there are just too many UC applicants applying for us CSU kids to be competitive. Why even interview CSU students when UC students are lining up with similar scores (albeit possibly slightly lesser scores in some cases). Maybe from the prospective of an adcom, with so many people to pick from the UC system, why even interview a CSU kid unless he / she has some REALLY unique features.All speculation of course. I certainly wish I would have had some UC interviews. Don't let this discourage you OP, there are plenty of other med schools out thereteenmachinery1 Status:Medical Student 200 hours of shadowing is NOT anywhere remotely near the average.amikhchi Status:Medical Student what's the average? ~4 hours a week for about 2 years with the exception of breaks and special circumstances.lord_jeebus SDN Moderator Status:Attending Physician Shadowing hours is never the issue. People don't get accepted because they shadowed a lot.JJMrK Status:Resident It's possible but you put yourself at a disadvantage.lovemesomeTJ Status:Non-Student UC post-bacs are for URM students who consider themselves disadvantaged and can back this claim up in their essays. I think the only one that might not require this is UC Berkeley, and it is not apart of the UC Post-Bac Consortium (or whatever it's called) that provides you with the extra help of getting in (I believe). If you meet this criteria, then all is well. But if not, you're going to need to figure out another alternative.I really don't see what the big deal is about California. Born and raised, all of my family and majority of my friends are here, and I could give a rat's *** about staying here for the rest of my life. Not to knock you and your motivations, but my goal is MEDICAL SCHOOL, not medical school in California. If you do exceptionally well at a school anywhere else in the country, you won't have trouble coming back here. To me, 4 years is a breath of fresh air from California and a chance to see another part of the country and how it lives. But again, we all have our motivations and reasons for our desires so I wish you luck in remaining in California.missbones Status:Pre-Medical USC takes non URM students. But other than that I was also looking into Mills, which has a high success rate of placing post-bacc students at UCs.casillas Status:Pre-Medical I can't say whether there is a bias, but it is not impossible. I met a few CSU students during UCSF second look weekend. so it definitely happens.Appless It happens, but as a whole CSU are going to be less competitive then UC students. They are seen as inferior schools like it or not and probably 95% of people who want to be pre meds end up at a UC somewhere. Furthermore, the opportunities at a CSU are going to be less which regardless of whether or not the CSU name matters, will hurt your app. Research is obviously a huge part in getting into UC schools as well as USC and other top schools and at CSUs, research just isnt going to happen at near the same level as a UC if it happens at all since not even all CSUs can grant phds for science. UCs have the monopoly on research in cali. Unfortunately, you should have transferred to a UC. Your chances arent over but you need to have other areas such as a great mcat to help you out. CSU gpas are indeed insanely inflated. If you dont just straight dominate the mcat, I would look into a SMP type post bacmissbones Status:Pre-Medical Follow up question: I have one more year of undergrad left, minimum because its too late to apply for fall graduation.I have taken bio 1 (this semester), and stats several years ago. I was planning on taking chem 1a fall, chem 1b spring. Should I stop pre-reqs completely, just finish up my major (only need 2 courses) and maybe add a minor to maintain FT status? Then apply for post bac/SMP for summer or fall 2011? I wonder if it will hurt my chances to spend another yr with no pre-reqs or if its a bad idea to keep taking them at a CSU if I intend to go to a post-bac anyway?Musclemass Getting admission to the CSU system is the opposite of competitive, it's almost open. There are no doubt many capable students at CSUs for reasons of economics, circumstances, etc., but med schools know the score and probably anything much less than a 4.0 and a strong MCAT is going to be a problem.Elijah05 said: ↑probably 95% of people who want to be pre meds end up at a UC somewhere.Not true, many go to private schools or go out of state. Funding and diversity problems at many UC campuses make them a less attractive choice to many.ILikeDrugs Status:Pre-Health (Field Undecided) I graduated from a CSU with a bachelors in psychology. If my applications weren't free I wouldn't even bother applying, but since it will be free I will apply just for the hell of it, even though I know I won't be going to school here in CA. I could probably also put down that I am a mex-american urm without lying since my family came from mexico and I am a first generation US born, but I don't consider myself an urm because I don't consider myself mex-american, nor do I look it, act it, or feel like it. I will check off "other" and put down "human".So why bother applying? Out of spite and to waste their time, of course.Sometimes this process/field/people in this field make me feel like I'm on Gossip Girl. I think someone on here actually said that being in med school is kind of like going back to high school in a Gossip Girl like setting.missbones Status:Pre-Medical I get the feeling. My high school record gave me the capability to attend any school in California I wanted, including Berkeley, UCs etc. I chose community college in the local area to figure out wtf I wanted to do before spending thousands of dollars. Plus my parents wouldn't drop a dime, but their income made it impossible for me to obtain financial aid. Basically Wah wah wah.I'm wondering if I can even get into a reputable post bacc like scripps or mills or usc tho... still being a csu student and all